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(5,106 posts)Otherwise the nation is started to wake up to the fact that our supposed elected representatives are ignoring us.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)of even Eisenhower and Nixon.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)be elected President and the DINO democrats like Hillary and Obama that were getting all the money and support used to push him aside in every way, not letting him debate them or meeting them on a level playing field.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)When he gets excited during a speech he tends to bounce.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)He was a team player. Trouble was, he was running to show, not to win. He ran into the peter principal, instead of still being in a more appropriate office for him he went for something so far out of his reach that he took the eye off his own job and well, did not do enough pothole repair in his state to secure the victory, even with gerrymandering.
Kucinich is really just the same as Mike Bloomberg(and that is a compliment). Just overreached.
Mayor, House, Senate, Assembly.
Why is he out of office?
Jerry Brown didn't give up and whine and cry. Jerry went into very small jobs in California, and continues to this day acheiving in the public sector.
BTW, LBJ was 10,000 times MORE liberal than Kucinich ever was, on all the more important issues of the day.
BTW2-Russert took Kucinich out of the debates. Why didn't Kucinich, instead of wasting all his time anwering Russert's time wasting Conspiracy theories question with Hey Tim, why don't you STFU and ask me a relevant political question you big sellout? Why didn't Dennis question why the megarich Russert left his father in a home after making his millions writing sob stories about his father and using him? Dennis should have done that.
Strange the above post blames our 44th President and our 45th President for that.
Why not blame someone who's actual fault it was, say like any 3rd party presidential candidate over the years, who stopped what should have been 83 years of Democratic presidents.
But then some hated Adlai Stevenson too for Ike, who was some war monging dufus who in the twilight of his life said one sentence totally out of whack with his lifestyle against war, who was the first to use a nickname later perfected by the Bush family.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And I see little hope that things will change because we have sheepherders in our own party that keep us in the flock with threats of the crazies taking over.
Fuck it...the crazies have taken over...and punking us every day.
K&R for two guys that get it..
fasttense
(17,301 posts)So, those who really believe we have 2 parties still are really not listening to what Obama is telling them.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I was never a supporter of him. I like him and I think he's a cool dude with a beautiful family and I'm proud for him and them to be the face of America to the world, but I would have preferred a real liberal for President for a change and that wasn't Hillary Clinton for me either. I would want a President like a Paul Wellstone. I'm certain there is someone out there who can fill Wellstone's shoes and who could run for President, which I'm sure Paul Wellstone would have, had he lived long enough.
antigop
(12,778 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)TPTB -- the powers that be
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I'm still of the opinion he was killed and they will kill or dishonor anyone who gets close. Look what they did to Howard Dean. I really don't have any answers.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Convince people to vote in the primary for the candidate who takes the least amount of corporate money.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)vote for candidates in the party you are registered for but I think I always did that anyway. I would go to Open Secrets to find out who were their major donors. Not quite voting for the least corporate money but making sure the corporations were progressive ones that supported progressive causes and unions.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)dotymed
(5,610 posts)can be televised as much as "the credit report song?"
America IS a liberal country (Progressive), just like most citizens of the world. Except maybe some religious countries where they actually believe the propaganda. That is what "they" are trying to do to Americans.
Goddamnit, we have to make a stand. Occupy was a start. IMO, the movement (beside being trivialized by the MSM) was too restrained by all of the committees that their proclamations went through.
Maybe, (it is Spring) we can have a movement where all of the goals are pre-defined (like publicly financed elections) and no more proclamations are made until we reach that goal.
We will only get a real representative government through relentless civil unrest. The wealthy have been relentless in their class war even though most of it has been covert.
We must be overt and educate the people to get a real representative government. At this point we are just slaves while the privileged few have their own laws and limitless resources.
Fight or die and we will die a million deaths living as cowards. When I say "fight", hopefully it is not physical. The people know they are being treated as non-citizens unless they are wealthy..this includes our armed services and policeman/women. Sadly, many of them have bought into the lie...that is where education comes in.
If we just keep abiding by the "law" we will never be real, free human beings.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)"Is there any way (organization) that this clip can be televised as much as "the credit report song?"
Somebody could pay to have it viewed or shared via a video sharing site, such as shareyoutubevideos.com. I use it all the time to get my videos noticed.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Democrats in name only.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)The truth hurts
Iggo
(47,558 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)There are some outliers, a few real progressive dems such as Alan Grayson, but the official Big D party apparatus is what republicans largely were post FDR and pre ex "B" actor Ronald Reagan. This started under Clinton and he recently admitted he was wrong about some things back then.
The different in dynamics between the far right and the far left is weird, mainstream republicans are being pushed further right because they're scared of a primary challenge from tea party types, while dems take the progressive voters for granted, shaft us, and get away with it time after time.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Sad to see we have made no progress at all, unless moving in reverse is counted as progress....
NCcoast
(480 posts)And deregulated media ownership is to blame. We need to publicly fund elections and break up the media death stars, jobs one and two.
Iwillnevergiveup
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