Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Sanders say's let's have a debate, and not a man hunt over spying... (Original Post) midnight Jun 2013 OP
Agree creon Jun 2013 #1
I agree, yet I am very jaded. dotymed Jun 2013 #2
Even if eighty percent of Americans like it . . . another_liberal Jun 2013 #3
I think this is needs to be the center piece of our national discussion.... midnight Jun 2013 #8
It needs to be said . . . another_liberal Jun 2013 #10
unfortunately, as is the case in all major issues, dems/progs/liberals allow RW radio to determine certainot Jun 2013 #4
+1000 n/t truebluegreen Jun 2013 #5
k/r woot nt. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #6
What's funny is the number of idiot Right Wingers who would think he's one of them. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #7
k&R avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #9

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
2. I agree, yet I am very jaded.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 08:49 AM
Jun 2013

I feel like it is trying to put the Jeanie back in the bottle and no matter what is decided, "they" will still illegally spy on us.

I am disappointed that Bernie Sanders will not run for POTUS.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
3. Even if eighty percent of Americans like it . . .
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jun 2013

If what the NSA is doing is unconstitutional, and it is, then it doesn't matter if eighty percent of Americans say it's OK, because it is still illegal. High government officials are breaking the law when they order such things done, and judges are violating their oaths when they approve those actions.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
10. It needs to be said . . .
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:30 AM
Jun 2013

Thank you. It's good to know someone agrees. The fact that opinion polls don't decide constitutionality nor legality needs to be pointed out. It needs to be said loudly, or no one is likely to hear over the orchestrated roar to approve whatever the government says it needs to, "Keep us safe."

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
4. unfortunately, as is the case in all major issues, dems/progs/liberals allow RW radio to determine
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jun 2013

what is and isn't important and acceptable to talk about.

all they have to do is stop giving the RW think tanks a free speech free ride on 1200 coordinated radio stations.

make it impossible for the monopoly to continue by demanding our universities stop endorsing global warming denial (by broadcasting sports on, and endorsing, RW radio stations including 170 limbaugh stations https://sites.google.com/site/universitiesforrushlimbaugh/ ).

and make repeating those talking points by politicians and media a laughable offense.

pretty soon we could start having fact-based discussions about national security, drugs, immigration, election reform, media reform, single payer, etc.

until the left stops ignoring RW radio, limbaugh and hannity and their wannabe spawn, on behalf of the 1%'s think tanks, will have a lot more to say on these issues than senator bernie sanders or any group of senators, or present and future presidents.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»Sanders say's let's have ...