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Bill Maher New Rules- House of Lards (Original Post) DeSwiss Jun 2013 OP
Maher is full of shit on this one, mostly. Archae Jun 2013 #1
I don't have access to your facts; greiner3 Jun 2013 #2
It's not ageist to point out absurdities like an 89-year-old Frank Lautenberg BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #3
Except assholes can be any age. Archae Jun 2013 #5
I'll grant you that BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #7
My point was why didn't Maher complain about younger ditwits like Ted Cruz? Archae Jun 2013 #8
I think Maher is spot on. Nitram Jun 2013 #4
Lot of younger republicans can't function. Archae Jun 2013 #6
I don't care the age, but it's the staleness, the inertia Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #9
Term limits doesn't work. Archae Jun 2013 #10
yes. money out. that's the main thing. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #11

Archae

(46,328 posts)
1. Maher is full of shit on this one, mostly.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jun 2013

Very ageist.

AND...

George Washington was the first government cheater.
He said to congress in his first term, he didn't want a salary, just expenses.

His expenses were 10 times what his salary would have been.
He tried that again in his second term, congress said no, he gets a salary.

His expenses dropped considerably.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
2. I don't have access to your facts;
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:25 AM
Jun 2013

Concerning the finances of Washington's expensive account.

However, since Maher's comment was about Washington's self imposed two term limit, I need to comment on this aspect.

Washington was asked by several power brokers that he declare himself a de facto Monarch.

This was when, I would imagine, Washington decided that a term limit was in the best interest of America; that and he longed for Martha, Mount Vernon and the slaves which kept the plantation going.

Well, nobody is perfect...

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
3. It's not ageist to point out absurdities like an 89-year-old Frank Lautenberg
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 08:10 AM
Jun 2013

telling Cory Booker he was showing a lack of respect by considering a Senate run. Are these people Kings? When you're an out-of-control asshole, you're an out-of-control asshole.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
7. I'll grant you that
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:14 PM
Jun 2013

It's sad how long these people can hold on, however. Big money concentrated in a few places does clog the government's arteries, to strain a metaphor. Of course, Maher is a comedian and the sight of these very aged people going out feet first has comedic value, but his main point is incumbents are ridiculously secure in power.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
8. My point was why didn't Maher complain about younger ditwits like Ted Cruz?
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jun 2013

Or older senators like Ted Kennedy?

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
4. I think Maher is spot on.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jun 2013

His point isn't that older people can't function, it is that our gerrymandered system guarantees them lifetime tenure even if they can't function. He is right.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
9. I don't care the age, but it's the staleness, the inertia
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jun 2013

the fuzzy thinking, the wrong motivations.

Imagine if there were term limits for Congress
and we had a constant refreshing of the whole
system. It would keep itself much cleaner and
more efficient, because they wouldn't spend
their terms negotiating for down-the-road perks.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
10. Term limits doesn't work.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jun 2013

It just sets up behind the scenes power brokers, who decide who will run next.

It also sets an artificial, arbitrary limit on who can serve for how long, no matter if they are doing a good job or not.

I think the biggest thing that would affect change is campaign money reform.
*REAL* reform.

The fact that both Obama and Romney together spent almost $2 *BILLION* on their campaigns in 2012 tells me something is very wrong there.

Even the amounts of campaign money for "minor" offices is out of control.

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