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EFF: Restore the Fourth Protest Against Unconstitutional Surveillance
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)I wonder how many of our own will attack you for it though. Maybe even call you a Paul-bot :-P
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Its stunning that our government won't use this term, 'innocent until proven guilty in the courts' before 9/11 and after 9/11, 'guilty until proven innocent in the courts'!
Oh America!
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)I am extremely pleased that the Admins are on the correct side of this issue!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)That knowledge is why I still hang around and don't let others drive me away.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Thank you.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Perhaps radio
There may be no more important issue in our day.
PB
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)If you talk about the 4th that means you hate the 2nd.
That's the way it works. Right?
Restore the whole CONSTITUTION! GWB tore it up and it's laying over there in the corner!
DhhD
(4,695 posts)I'll never forget it. He also had no respect for International Law. He made that known back around 2003... around the time he invaded Iraq. You find that one and I'll buy you a drink... It was during a press conference, I think during the presser that he said "wanted dead or alive", I think....
DhhD
(4,695 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)Dallas Morning New connection.
Scroll all the way to the bottom and take a look at the links.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)I think it was in reference to Osama. Thanks for looking around. Stop looking. Neither of us need to be giving that creep any of our time anymore. Later.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)ornotna
(10,803 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)But it's a fucking disaster of pure ignorance and trembling cowardice that citizens would be so cavalier about it.
Worst 4th 'O July ever.
(And fuck you if you want to post "lighten up Francis".) Fucking internet ciphers.
Happy 4th!
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)I still fail to see how preservation of phone data so that i can be legally searched is a violation of the fourth!
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)....in their persons------against unreasonable searches"
So obvious.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Than the 2nd or 1st for that matter, as far as our Personal Universe .
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, EarlG.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Limiting Presidents to 2 terms!!!
Since the Supreme Court said last week in their decision that times have changed, let's get rid of term limits for Presidents!!!
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)The build-up of this massive Total Information Awareness complex is utterly anathema to our existence as a free people. Billions of dollars being sucked up by private contractors who profit mightily from maintaining a fearful citizenry under constant surveillance. There is no good end to allowing this monster free reign.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
indepat
(20,899 posts)effects, purportedly to keep us safe from terraists, concomitant with government not requiring universal background checks even in the purchase of military-grade assault weapons equipped with 100-round magazines, ostensibly not to infringe our 2nd Amendment rights, is the epitome of hypocrisy and dichotomously ludicrous beyond description imho.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Restore and protect the entire bill of rights.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Can't spy it out.
jybarz
(34 posts)from Bush years.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)she was a showgirl
With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
She would merengue and do the cha-cha
And while she tried to be a star, Tony always tended bar
Across a crowded floor, they worked from 8 till 4
They were young and they had each other
Who could ask for more?
ETC,
--I simply love that song!!
pam4water
(2,916 posts)YeahSureRight
(205 posts)It would be nice if they still actually meant something today.
BigD_95
(911 posts)We have been doing DUI check points for 20 years or more.
SO you have to prove you were not drinking. No reason to suspect you were drinking. Just driving down the road.
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)read the book of Revelation.
The fact is that now even the hard core right wingers see how the country became less than a democracy, now that a democrat has the same power they approved of Bush grabbing.
Wont to do a worthwhile repeal congress? Repeal the "Patriot Act" in it's entirety, ASAP.