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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 03:54 PM Jul 2013

When US Slams Russia, Press Conference BACKFIRES Big Time!



- Translation of the above White House and State Department apparatchiks nonsensical gibberish and gobbledygook:

[font size=10 color=red]''Will somebody please shut this guy up!?!?!?''[/font]
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When US Slams Russia, Press Conference BACKFIRES Big Time! (Original Post) DeSwiss Jul 2013 OP
Yikes. The Administration looks bad in that clip. Laelth Jul 2013 #1
As a first step, I wholeheartedly agree. n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #2
Cool. What would your preferred second step be? n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #3
Disclosure. To stop the lies. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #4
I certainly wouldn't argue with that. Laelth Jul 2013 #5
Because that is part of the old paradigm. The old apple. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #12
They certainly do. wtmusic Jul 2013 #20
Cathrina posted a transcript of this a few days ago Hydra Jul 2013 #6
I am highly disappointed in the outlooks of some that post here in DU, home of the "politically rhett o rick Jul 2013 #7
Yeah, those and the NSA defense posts read as Hydra Jul 2013 #8
It's ok if Gen Clapper breaks the law but not Edward Snowden. They support the biggest bullies. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #9
"Fuck the law, cuz like, we trust the President!" FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #13
Once they got rid of that pesky ol' ''Due Process'' crap..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #15
I'm loving this!! Such hypocrisy on the part of the U.S.... truth2power Jul 2013 #10
I believe Zappa would say that we're at ''that point.'' DeSwiss Jul 2013 #16
I think about that quote a lot. eom truth2power Jul 2013 #18
would really like to see the President side with the constitution maindawg Jul 2013 #11
Ah, but in his past, he was a Constitutional Scholar FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #14
He can't. He doesn't have the power. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #17
I think that's a cop-out..that he's helpless or that he's not in charge... truth2power Jul 2013 #19
Who's the journalist asking questions? wtmusic Jul 2013 #21
If I wanted my government to embarrass me when they spoke, I would have voted for Bush. 20score Jul 2013 #22
Ouch! It seems that's already left a mark. On You. :-/ n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #24
How so? 20score Jul 2013 #33
When the parallels betweeen Bush and Obama are indistinquishable. :-| n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #34
knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #23
Free speech sounds like it needs to be speech that is pleasing speech.... midnight Jul 2013 #25
.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #28
During the tenth century in France, the doors of traitors and criminals were painted yellow. midnight Jul 2013 #26
Thank you! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #29
A nice collection of interesting door designs too..... midnight Jul 2013 #39
As the russian commentator said Quantess Jul 2013 #27
It's as though we're characters stuck in a dystopian novel..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #30
this administration has become an embarrassment. so much potential wasted..... bowens43 Jul 2013 #31
Unfortunately..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #35
I'd like to see RT do a story about Russian state homophobia burnodo Jul 2013 #32
No way. Putin would only take his shirt off again..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #36
Just meant to comment as an aside burnodo Jul 2013 #37
The problem is that we keep getting side-tracked. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #38

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Yikes. The Administration looks bad in that clip.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:04 PM
Jul 2013

And it's only going to get worse.

Allow me to iterate my stand on this, and feel free to forward it if you agree: http://laelth.blogspot.com/2013/06/obamas-best-chance-to-make-history-and.html

-Laelth

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
4. Disclosure. To stop the lies.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jul 2013
- The truth is coming out regardless, but it would better if everyone were a little more prepared for it.

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During the weeks of July 12, thru 29, 1952, Washington D.C. was repeatedly buzzed by objects that could out-run the Air Force's fastest Sabre jet. And they still can.

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. I certainly wouldn't argue with that.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jul 2013

I'd prefer it, however, if the Democratic Party were to get out in front of this issue and began to call for reform (and, thereby got the credit for it). As you say, the info. is coming out anyway. Why not side with the American people and the Constitution on this issue?



-Laelth

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. Because that is part of the old paradigm. The old apple.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jul 2013

The old rotten apple. But you don't put new wine into an old skin.

And yet I don't begrudge the old paradigm, because it has served us well. It got us away from the monarchy, but it delivered us to the Philistines of Wall Street instead. It got us away from chattel slavery, but still as we've seen recently, a black boy can't walk the streets without fear of sudden death. It has opened up society's opportunities so that women can now participate in it, and yet there's Texas. It is rending the barriers of discrimination against homosexuals, transsexuals, transvestites and all those of a differing orientations, and yet there's still places like Nigeria and Russia trying to hold back time.

So this old thing has served its purpose in getting us to this point. But it can't take us any further. There are no more new laws that can be passed that will changed things adequately. There are no new politicians on the horizon who aren't vulnerable to the onslaught of corporate $$$. There are no new safeguards possible against the latest (fill-in-the-blank) atrocity and/or overreach and/or abuse of power.

Why? Because the cancer of corruption is systemic. And the cancer of corruption has metastasized and there's only one way to survive. Unless the patient assumes a new body, it will die inside the old one.

Once the caterpillar has molted its chrysalis it must then invigorate its body, pumping its blood into its new wings. Then it can fly.

Because it is now time to EVOLVE.



[font color=gray size=3]A Different Perspective[/font]

If Everyone In The World Lived In Texas

If you divided the square footage of the State of Texas by the world's population, what would be the square foot area available per person?

Texas land area is: 261,232 square miles

1 square mile = 640 acres: 261,232 x 640 = 167,188,480 square acres

1 acre = 43,560 square feet: 167,188,480 x 43,560 = 7,282,730,188,800 square feet

World Population: 7,000,000,000

Thus: 7,282,730,188,800 square feet divided by 7,000,000,000 people = 1040.39 square feet per person

Conclusions:
It occurs to me that if the world's population could fit inside an area the size of Texas giving each person 1000 or so square feet each to live in (the average size of a 2BR apartment), that would put the ratio between all the people of the world to its resources in a mind-boggling skew in favor of people, thousands and thousands of times over. We are all billionaires. So why does this planet have poor people? At all? We all know the answer to that question.

[font size=4]THAT'S OUR MAIN PROBLEM[/font].

~DeSwiss

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
20. They certainly do.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

They look just like the censors in other countries they squawk about all the time.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. Cathrina posted a transcript of this a few days ago
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jul 2013

And a really frightening comment in there was how Snowden doesn't have any First Amendment rights because they say so.

I wasn't aware that the Constitution can be ignored whenever it suits the Executive branch. I know Bush tried it, but we(Including the sitting President) agreed that he was a lawbreaking asshole.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. I am highly disappointed in the outlooks of some that post here in DU, home of the "politically
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

liberal".

"Snowden cant have free speech because "we" know he broke the law".

"People can be executed via drone hits because "we" know they are terrorists".

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
8. Yeah, those and the NSA defense posts read as
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jul 2013

"Fuck the law, cuz like, we trust the President!"

Exsqueeze me? Rule of law is now passe in favor of rule by decree? I wasn't aware we wanted to have a monarchy.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. It's ok if Gen Clapper breaks the law but not Edward Snowden. They support the biggest bullies. nm
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jul 2013
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. Once they got rid of that pesky ol' ''Due Process'' crap.....
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jul 2013

...and justified among themselves the assassination of ''bad citizens'' at-will, ignoring Free Speech is a piece of cake!

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
10. I'm loving this!! Such hypocrisy on the part of the U.S....
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:40 PM
Jul 2013

And then they send out these, as you said, "apparatchiks" to try to defend it. It is to laugh!

Validates what I've known for years...The U S of A has never been interested in Democracy. Anywhere. In. The. World.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
11. would really like to see the President side with the constitution
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:40 PM
Jul 2013

and the American people on this. The truth is, the President is not in charge. He answers to the billionaires who run this country and every other country on Earth. They killed Kennedy , and they have killed hundreds of others. The President is well aware and has his orders.
We all know that The president is a good man. We know he understands the 4th amendment. the first amendment and he is well aware that history is being written as this unfolds. This is a pivotal moment. This is our only chance to reverse the direction That saint ronnie set us on.The only opportunity to undo the fascist policies of GWB. This is it. If they silence Snowden, we are all prisoners of the state.
The more pressure they put on this, the more Americans will unify to resist this bullshit NSA spying. We must get rid of the Patriot act and the NSA.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
14. Ah, but in his past, he was a Constitutional Scholar
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jul 2013

He payed attention to it over there so he wouldn't have to pay attention to it over here.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
17. He can't. He doesn't have the power.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jul 2013

The system we call our country, our government, isn't. It in is an illusion. Eisenhower warned us but we didn't listen. Most people don't like to hear this, because they know that it is true. And once having accepted the truth, they must then do something about it. That's what scares us.

- But we've pushed things to the backburner for so long, that there's no more room back there. Now we'll have to deal with it all.

[center][/center]

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
28. ....
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:58 AM
Jul 2013




And then there’s zombie culture’s disturbing legitimization of the desensitized extermination of others — with confusion as to just who those others happen to be.

''That is certainly a worrying phenomenon. If you conscript a bunch of ordinary men or women, put them in uniform, take them to a distant country and tell them, “I want you to go over there and try your best to kill a bunch of people in different uniforms,” the majority who aren’t psychopaths won’t want to do it. We find that an alien thing to do. But if you ask them to kill a virtual enemy … well, that’s no problem. Nobody cares what happens to all those zombies in the shoot-’em-up games, because they’re not real. If you get humans to kill a thousand or 10,000 virtual enemies, and then put them in a real combat situation, it is quite likely that they will become desensitized to the idea of killing, especially with countless virtual walk-throughs.'' ~Alan Moore, The Revolution Will Be Crowd Funded

midnight

(26,624 posts)
26. During the tenth century in France, the doors of traitors and criminals were painted yellow.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:00 AM
Jul 2013

Yellow is the color that means “elevated” in the color-coded threat system established by presidential order in March 2002. This system quickly informs law enforcement agencies when intelligence indicates a change in the terrorist threat facing the United States.


I'm in the middle of selecting new paint colors for a project I'm working on, and was doing color research today...

http://www.sensationalcolor.com/color-meaning/color-meaning-symbolism-psychology/all-about-the-color-yellow-4297

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
27. As the russian commentator said
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jul 2013

One can only imagine how the reaction would be if the roles were reversed, and it were a russian whistleblower who flew to the US. The hypocrisy is stunning.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
30. It's as though we're characters stuck in a dystopian novel.....
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:07 AM
Jul 2013

...that includes sporadic interludes from the main plot, into Monty Python sketches.

- We've become caricatures of ourselves......



 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
35. Unfortunately.....
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jul 2013

...I didn't have any expectations that I could later become embarrassed about not having achieved. That is more a testament to my acceptance of the reality of our times rather than Obama per se. We took too long getting here for Obama to have been able to have any meaningful impact. But at least people are now waking up.

- And that's no small thing......

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
32. I'd like to see RT do a story about Russian state homophobia
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:49 AM
Jul 2013

Wonder if that would make the airwaves

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
36. No way. Putin would only take his shirt off again.....
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Jul 2013

...and show everyone how manliness is next to ungodliness. Or, something. But you could post your own thread about that subject, and maybe someone can come up with some good ideas.

- Meantime, this thread is about the US's hypocrisy. If you have anything to offer about that, I'd be glad to see it.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
37. Just meant to comment as an aside
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jul 2013

The hypocrisy of the US is far-ranging and has been since the founding. This latest fiasco is rife with government CYA as they try to talk about SNowden instead of the validity and criminality of the NSA spying. Like many people here.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
38. The problem is that we keep getting side-tracked.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jul 2013

The American public has the attention span of an amoeba. We have so many triggers built-in to society that control our thoughts and behavior, we don't even know who we are. Let alone, who they are, the ones who pulls those triggers.

The US is the preeminent power on this planet, presently. And it should be no surprise that they intend to remain in-power, no matter what. Or, who. A rude awakening is coming to all those who remain fixated with the bevy of activities designed to direct our attention away from ourselves -- wherein lies the power. That is why all these distractions like Russian and Nigerian laws intended to try and turn back time serve only to inflame, rather than illuminate and connect the dots of how it all fits together into the whole.

Here's the thing: no one ''owns'' anything. Period. We all came here butt-naked with not a dime on us. And we'll leave in the same manner, albeit more snazzily dressed. So this planet's resources are meant to be held in-common for the good of all. Unless we brought something here through the ol' birth canal, we own not-a-thing. But we've allowed ourselves to accept an existing world view which includes an individual's right to pollute and maim and destroy -- and own, that which s/he has no right to. We've allowed the belief that some should have more than others through the use of debt as money. Nothing standing for everything.

This paradigm has reached its end. We've printed all the digital dollars that the system can handle without admitting that this shit doesn't work. And of course that's exactly what we've proven by what we're doing now: giving banks negative interest rates. We're paying them to borrow our money as debt that we have to pay back to them. How come people can't see that? Maybe they do, and they're just too damned scared of what it means to them when it crashes.

This is where we are now. This is the question each will have to answer. For ourselves. Individually. Will we continue to support this corrupt system? Or will we withdraw from it? A system that works against us, even kills us and yet derives all of its power from us? There is no leader which can lead us to the right answer here. There are no messiahs who will come to save us from the devils that we ourselves have created.

- We must save ourselves, one at a time. Because we're the only ones who can.....



[font color=gray size=3]A Different Perspective[/font]

''No one who lives in error is free.'' ~Euripides
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"Battle not with monsters - lest ye become a monster." ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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"To fight the empire is to be infected by its derangement. Whoever defeats part of the empire becomes the empire; it proliferates like a virus... thereby it becomes its enemies." ~Philip K. Dick
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"When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want, which is how for instance the 'NWO' works. You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in helping this taking shape by bombarding you with 'facts' that it is taking shape. Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more... while in reality you are in full control.

So the people who are 'waking up' to it are the ones who are creating it. They say: ''Resist, the control being forced upon humanity. React, when they do their political manueverings to bring about less sovereignty and greater suffering for the nations of the world.''

But we mustn’t resist and react to this control. As Carl Jung said, ''What you resist, persists.'' What the powers that be want is for us to become that radical element (again it doesn’t matter which side we choose). We can be either for them or against them. If we react and if we resist, we give them the manipulative power to push the agenda along. By resisting and reacting, we are demonstrating that we believe the subliminal hypnotic suggestion, thereby making it our reality, and the events they wish to occur concerning humanity, and that they wish to appear real, will occur and it becomes our reality.

Do not pay attention to the 'world events', they are all orchestrated to make you pay attention to them. The struggle you should pay attention to is on a personal level." ~The Insider
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