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This segment originally aired on the September 1st, 2013 episode of Ring of Fire on Free Speech TV. Todays Democratic Party has become a subsidiary of Wall Street banks. Were kidding ourselves if we think that its just the GOP. Ring of Fires Mike Papantonio talks about the new Wall Street democrats with attorneys Howard Nations and Dave TeSelle.
More at Ring of Fire.
polichick
(37,152 posts)What we really need is a people's party with candidates who agree not to invest in mic companies or work as lobbyists EVER. Can the Dems be that party??
fredamae
(4,458 posts)I left the Dem Party after 54 years.............
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)The dems keep taking my vote for granted while taunting, "Who else you gonna vote for?" Well, the Greens, perhaps. Voting for the lesser of two evils is getting me exactly what I don't want.
This cartoon says it all. It's not just Obama, it's the entire party.
on edit: I spent over an hour on this site yesterday: http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
More Americans should spend some time here.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I worked hard for Obama in 2008, I believed in his rhetoric. Then he trotted out the old Rubin in and out of Wall Street flat earth greed is good team as his financial team. That was a clear signal to me that Wall Street owns the democratic party too.
I voted for him again in 2012 but that was a lot more anti Romney than a ringing endorsement of Obama. It just stinks that this is where we're at with the two party system, a system now where we vote on who likely will do less harm. I'm not sure where we go in the near future but this system is broken. The major news media doesn't really probe and investigate anymore, they're locked into false equivalency mode.
We need multiple parties, IRV, and for once to get real on easy, secure, and verifiable voting. Oh and we need to end gerrymandering and go to public funding of elections.
blue14u
(575 posts)moving to the Green party, or Independent party..
As its been said.. there is one party now. The corporate
party/money party...
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)I doubt we can get our government back via the ballot box. Gerrymandering, Citizens United, electronic voting & a for-profit media, who's agenda is their bottom line, not informing the public.
I'm at a loss as well. I will still vote predominately dem, but no more guaranteed vote from me. I will not vote for Clinton. I see her as Obama's third term, who has largely been Bush's third term, who was Clinton's third term on steroids, who was mostly Reagan/Bush's forth term.
Here is a chapter out of Michael Moore's book, "Stupid White Men." The title of the chapter is "Democrats: DOA." It is spot on. I especially liked this sentence, which comes after a long list of Clinton 'achievements.'
"Yes, you'd have to agree, considering all of his above accomplishments, that Bill Clinton was one of the best Republican Presidents we've ever had."
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Michael_Moore/Democrats_DOA_SWM.html
Another DUer wondered if the repubs win the WH in 16, will the dems move right or left? My guess? Right. Why break a pattern that has been working for them for 30+ years. I'll bet their bank accounts are pretty damned lush by now.
James Madison said, "when the variety and number of political parties increases, the chance for oppression, factionalism, and nonskeptical acceptance of ideas decreases."
Vote your conscience. That's where I'm at.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 3, 2013, 06:51 AM - Edit history (1)
Don't forget the pirate party
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2013/4/8/birgitta_jnsdttir_on_criminalization_of_cyber_activists_bradley_manning_icelands_pirate_party_pt_2
Arg
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)We've got common sense on tap!
http://officialbeerparty.com/wp/
I liked them on FB. They're pretty cool.
Thanks for the Goodman link. Will definitely check it out. Good to keep an eye on Iceland & what's going on there.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,242 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)kitt6
(516 posts)Since Bill Clinton. God help us.
Agony
(2,605 posts)our new Democratic Senator from NJ
... awesome
pam4water
(2,916 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)the reality of this video. Wake up.
Scroll down to:
"Mark Leibovich on Glitz and Greed in Washington
Moyers & Company
Posted: August 23, 2013
The New York Times journalist has written about the citys bipartisan lust for power, cash and notoriety in a book that everyone whos anyone in D.C. is talking about."
http://billmoyers.com/video/
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)Ease into the week. Grab a coffee & watch this 12 minute vid.
Mort Rainey
(14 posts)K&R
fasttense
(17,301 posts)The Glass-Steagall Act had to be repealed in order to meet the demands of a WTO agreement signed by the US and developed by the Raygun administration.
I imagine the Dodd Frank act is either totally toothless or will soon be, in order to meet the conditions of the numerous WTO agreements.
I wish just one president would have the guts to stand up to those WTO agreements developed by neocons and say go ahead put on your trade sanctions and embargoes. Go ahead, don't import your crap to the US. The bushes ignored the "NO torture" agreement under the Geneva convention treaty and Nothing happened. We should do the same thing with the Raygun Neocon WTO agreements.