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Related: About this forumRand Paul, Mitch McConnell caught on hot mic talking shutdown strategy
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) were caught on a hot mic Wednesday discussing talking-points for the shutdown by local news station WPSD 6.
"I just did CNN and I just go over and over again 'We're willing to compromise. We're willing to negotiate.' I think... I don't think they poll tested we won't negotiate. I think it's awful for them to say that over and over again," Paul said.
"Yeah, I do too and I, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them and that, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publicly," McConnell agreed.
Paul added, "I think if we keep saying, 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that and that we're willing to compromise on this', I think they can't, we're gonna, I think... well, I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this, I think."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/rand-paul-mitch-mcconnell-hot-mic_n_4036591.html
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)KelleyD
(277 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)kag
(4,079 posts)Hey, new diet idea...!!!??
enough
(13,264 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)They just talk about how they're going to win, not what they're doing to make sure they win. Paul says he goes to the pres and talks compromise. He doesn't say anything about Republicans making compromise impossible.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)but on the other, the government keeps lots of secrets including the exchanges in the negotiations of the leadership when leaders disagree, you invite lies, deception and dirty tricks.
Just think about your own marriage, family, or friendships. If you keep a secret, a big secret, from your spouse, chances are sooner or later, you will have to lie or cheat to protect the secret.
That is why I oppose all the secrecy and spying, etc. in our government.
We should be as open and honest with each other as we can.
Our government has become a nest (on all sides, all parties) of secretive liars. It's all pretend. It's not real.
This will not work in the end.
Some things that affect no one but yourself you can keep secret. But when you negotiate with others in secret constantly, you are in for trouble.
The discussions in each caucus, the Democrats and then on the other hand, the Republicans, can be secret. But the discussions between the president and members of Congress should be public. We should know specifically who is saying what. There should be a transcript. And it should be published for us to see.
The Republicans are wasting precious time with their childish games. And it is all intended to fool people into voting for them.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)You are winning? Winning what? the prize for the target shooting of your own foot?
mataku...
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)MiniMe
(21,721 posts)You Lost seats in the Senate, and the House, and you lost the White House. Deal with it
They_Live
(3,241 posts)by cheating, lying, pouting, and throwing temper tantrums until they get what they want.
Seems to work pretty well for them. I hope that it does not work this time.
RC
(25,592 posts)What a concept, saying the same thing in public as in private. Whatdasay Mitch, do you do that? Can you even do that without engaging in damage control?
ffr
(22,674 posts)While you're up there on Capital Hill duncing it up, RAND, our nation suffers.
You had the opportunity to speak 3 years ago and you said NO.
This needs to go viral.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They have spent their careers demonizing Liberals plus the RW Noise Machine they built has got their back. Plus, they have bought their own propaganda.
They honestly can't picture giving ANY respect to the other side AT ALL. To them, it's a done deal that they are superior and the other side MUST give in to them. Besides, Liberals have yielded in the past on major issues. No doubt we will cave because we worship government and this shutdown makes us cry.
Right?
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)And it never rains in southern California...
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)The American people are eventually gonna learn that your "line" is BS and that you care NOTHING about the citizens of this country. It's ALL about payback to your corporate financiers.
Self serving Gasholes......
judesedit
(4,443 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)probably a FoxNews 'Fox and Friends' poll
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)I like the comment above that says, "what a cute little rookie he is" - hahahahaha so true.
and the words the turtle was looking for when he said he'd just came back from a 2 hr meeting with "him", are "the president", but they don't dare call him that in private circles, they'll be called traitors to the confederacy! LOL
http://www.zazzle.com/shutdown_the_gop_by_voting_in_2014_government-128195183613839642?rf=238107662556833486
yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)I can't wait for the President to pull the carpet out from under your feet, and watch you fall flat on your oshiri!!!
Watashi no o shiri ni kisu! Baka, doji, Manuke!!