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BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
1. So McGovern thought two years ago the reason the WH wanted the NDAA to apply to US citizens
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

was OWS.

Very interesting.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
3. That's probably a Brzezinski quote
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:23 PM
Nov 2013

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"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization."

The Grand Chessboard (1997)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
5. I agree with Ray and Paul, we are entering very murky waters, where our Constitution is all but
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:11 PM
Nov 2013

Ignored, as you would a quaint relic of the past. I especially felt a tingle when the links of our past actions are seen as causing more resent reactions...this seems simple at one level, the rear view mirror perspective, but it goes on. For example, our droning many countries such as Pakistan, killing 1000s, is planting seeds that will bring forth a large harvest of angry potential terrorists. Still, we push on, and only gain velocity and momentum. Heaven help us.

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