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zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. I doubt I will make it.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:34 AM
Nov 2013

And that is the reason for 75 years, so that no one could be punished and anyone who remember it will be dead and gone, and by then there won't be a mind left that will question anything.
The official account will go down as a fact in history.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
11. And will the files be there?
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 12:24 PM
Nov 2013

75 years is a goodly amount of time to scrub and destroy files linked to this assassination.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
4. A nice summary of some of the troubling circumstances
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:18 AM
Nov 2013

NOVA was interesting this past week. The bottom line from the science appears only to have been that the bullet's all "could" have come from behind.

I do think it is quite possible that the two that hit did. It isn't clear that Oswald was the "lone" gunman and an objective analysis of the forensic evidence wouldn't boldly claim that he was. It is interesting that so many mainstream sources seem to still have a vested interest in saying so. Apparently to assure the simple folk back home that it's all OK.

Don't look behind the curtain and be sure to take the blue pill.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. The government has gone to great expense to mollify us into into believing
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:49 AM
Nov 2013

that this nitwit did this without any help. Same with RFK and MLK jr.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
8. Yes, this had many facts not known by many, but the real conspiracy of who pulled these strings and
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:49 AM
Nov 2013

Set up at least one more shooter. Reelz network just showed a Secret Service Officer that used an assault weapon to look for the Book Depository Shooter, but accidentally fired the weapon one time and the friggin' bullet went right into the back of JFK's head causing a 130mm crater in the front...right. The Truth I'm afraid goes very high and many have already suffered "unusual deaths", and the remainder seem to have learned to keep their yap shut. All I know is that the current official story is wrong. Will we ever know this side of death?

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
9. Oswald was groomed
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:32 AM
Nov 2013

from his impressionable teenage years in the CAP to be an assassin. Anyone in CAP in the 60's will tell you it was the ideal organization to recruit young minds into a right wing straitjacket. To defend CAP it must be said it was not explicitly for that purpose, but if you wanted to recruit a young deep cover assassin that would be the place you would look. Oswald, without a father figure and possibly having sexuality issues was probably soft clay the hands of a covert ops trainer like David Ferree.

Oswalds life path, the Marine Corps, time spent in exile in the USSR was designed to give the impression of a converted communist willing to execute the orders of his masters in Moscow or Havana. That impression could lead to war if Oswald could be linked to the killing of Kennedy, something the lunatic Flying Monkey Right desperately longed for in the early Sixties when it was known that the Warsaw Pacts' military capabilities were more bluster that bite.

So the die is cast, Oswald takes a deliberately missed shot at General Edwin Walker. Leaving a trail of evidence that would lead to himself after he scores the hit on Kennedy, Oswald gives the impression of a Castro sympathizer-agent that would be indelible and the assassination would lead to public outrage against Castro. An invasion of Cuba was something that Oswalds' cohorts desperately wanted. Even in ancient times, the assassination of a head of state was causus belli.

I think the plan was to have Oswald confess to being trained by Castro during the subsequent trial and provoking a public response. His handlers might have felt he would roll over on them in jail and sent Jack Ruby in to terminate the project.

One assassin, four bullets fired by a guy trained to shoot by the U.S. Marine Corps and recruited into a rogue underground network as a double agent.

Not even a good spy novel.

Vox Moi

(546 posts)
10. Oswald … the invisible man
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013

One mystery to me is how Oswald managed to evade the scrutiny of the Secret Service.
A former US Marine who defected to the Soviet Union, who was a Pro-Castro activist, who had been at the US Embassy in Mexico recently, who had ordered a rifle via mail order and practiced with it openly … and nobody noticed?
His office address in New Orleans was not suspicious? His radio appearances not of interest?
Nobody was watching Oswald?
Hell, I had a relative who was put in jail in the early 50's because he was the editor of a (completely legal) communist newspaper … and was hounded by the FBI for years after he was released.
In 1968 I was in the Marines and arrested at an anti-war demonstration. It was completely legal for me to be there but I was arrested by Military Police, beaten and jailed, investigated and monitored by counter-intelligence officers and subjected to multiple interrogations over several months, even though I had committed no offense and no charges were ever filed.
… and Oswald was ignored? Really?

robersl

(83 posts)
12. How the Single Bullet Theory Began
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 04:00 PM
Nov 2013

James Jenkins was a medical assistant at the Kennedy autopsy. After Kennedy's heart and lungs had been removed, Jenkins witnessed Dr. Hume stick his pinky into the back wound. Everyone present could see the pinky pushing against the skin lining the back of the chest cavity.

This is conclusive proof that the back wound did NOT exit Kennedy's throat and continue on to pass through Connally as well. Therefore, the single-bullet theory cannot be true and in fact there were multiple gunmen.

At the time of the autopsy, the doctors only knew that three shots had to be accounted for. Also, they did not find out that the incision in the front of Kennedy's throat had started out as a bullet wound until Saturday, when Hume called Parkland Hospital.

So when they ended the autopsy, they thought they had accounted for the three shots - a back wound that only went a couple inches in, the head shot and a third bullet that struck Connally.

After Hume found out about the throat wound, he realized they had a problem. They had already accounted for three shots with three wounds and now they had a fourth wound.

At that point, Hume burned his original autopsy notes and wrote a second set, this time, postulating that the back wound "probably" exited Kennedy's throat.

After it became evident that another bullet had struck the curb near the triple overpass and a chip of flying concrete had wounded a bystander, it became necessary for Arlen Specter to build on Hume's "work" and concoct the single bullet theory, thus allowing one bullet to cause Kennedy's back and throat wounds as well as all of Connally's.

citizenbfk

(16 posts)
13. RELEASE ALL THE EVIDENCE!
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:18 PM
Nov 2013

Until we get a release of ALL evidence how can we even expect to know the full truth...

IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES COMMON SENSE AND A STANDARD OF COMMON JUSTICE -- we can do a little bit ...On this 50th anniversary of the assassination of President John Kennedy there's still a strong grip to hide the evidence and truth behind that crime, that murder --- Right now there is now a White House petition about it. We have 30-days to get 100,000 signatures -- Please Share & Sign - http://wh.gov/lKCZT

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