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Rachel Maddow - Leak: Right-wing group loses big over gun law (Original Post) Galraedia Dec 2013 OP
The best television madokie Dec 2013 #1
That was an excellent segment last night! k&r Little Star Dec 2013 #2
Excellent. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #3
Awesome Larabee9898 Dec 2013 #4
can somebody summarize for us cube monkeys NewJeffCT Dec 2013 #5
Story about the decline of ALEC JBoy Dec 2013 #8
Galraedia, Thank you! kag Dec 2013 #6
Like bath mat mold Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #7
Don't worry - this mold will be back! erronis Dec 2013 #9
Exposure to public scrutiny kills this fungus Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #11
A minor nit... There is a very large difference between Flatulo Dec 2013 #10
A big kick for Rachel! thecrow Dec 2013 #12

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
3. Excellent.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:27 AM
Dec 2013

Foreign media sources take the lead on delivering U.S. news.

Was there anyone else but Maddow who picked up the story?

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
8. Story about the decline of ALEC
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 12:52 PM
Dec 2013

ALEC was instrumental in getting stand your ground legislation passed in many states, but then after the Trayvon Martin case, big companies supporting ALEC started bailing due to bad publicity. ALEC is now launching a "Prodigal Son Project" to try to woo these companies back.

kag

(4,079 posts)
6. Galraedia, Thank you!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:58 AM
Dec 2013

I hardly ever get to watch Rachel at night anymore, so thanks for posting these! I always watch them as soon as I can.

erronis

(15,257 posts)
9. Don't worry - this mold will be back!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:53 PM
Dec 2013

Stupidity and greed are extremely hard to eradicate. These repug/lobbyists have proven resilient over the years.

Sunlight will kill them.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
10. A minor nit... There is a very large difference between
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:45 PM
Dec 2013

"Stand your ground" and "Castle doctrine" laws.

Stand your ground applies anywhere outside the home and removes the obligation of a citizen to flee a confrontation.

Castle doctrine applies only inside the home, where a homeowner may use deadly force to repel an intruder.

I don't know if this was a deliberate attempt to conflate the two, but it's certainly sloppy to do so.

Many years ago, Massachusetts, which has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, did not have a castle doctrine law. In other words, you were required to flee if someone invaded your home. This was immensely unpopular and was changed under governor Bill Weld. Now, under certain circumstances, homeowners are immune from being prosecuted for self-defense in their domiciles. The special circumstances take into account the nature of the intrusion (so that you don't shoot any Halloween reveler who happens to stumble onto your doorstep) and act as a check against excessive use of the defense. You have to really be in mortal danger of being killed or grievously wounded to use the defense.

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