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very happy to feature the work of some key female researchers who have
really pushed the boundaries.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)the warming, and therefore expanding, of the water itself, NOT by the additional water being freed up by melting ice. This video seems to say the opposite -- that sea level rise is the product of melting ice.
Which is it?
RC
(25,592 posts)Partly by the expansion of the warmer seas, but mostly by the melting of the polar ice caps. All that water locked up in the ice sheets above sea level, melting and flowing into the oceans. That is a lot of water.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)sitting on ground above sea level. When that melts, it all goes into the ocean. That is potentially 27 meters of rise worldwide.
Now, like the mastadons, we can just move inland. But the coasts are where most people live. And a lot of people are going to die in the process because we won't make the move inland until floods force that. And as we have seen with Super Storm Sandy and Typhoon Haiyan, it isn't the average sea level that gets you. it is the fact that the next surge is bigger than the last with no end in sight.
We are way past the point that any of us will live to see the reversal of this problem. The best we can hope for now is to slow it down a little and hope for a more enlightened population after we are all gone.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)This picture is something that the younger of us here could see DURING their lifetime with the red spots being underwater.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)greenman3610
(3,947 posts)still a lot, but not 27 meters.
it's 3 times the size of texas - but Antarctica is 10 times bigger.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)As Greenland melts, the same thing happens all over the world, including Antarctica, so the total rise possible is about 70 meters.
http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/glaciers/quickfacts.html
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)if all of antarctica were to melt, that would be 70 meters or so,
but that is not realistic. still, even a few meters would be devastating.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Look how much the consensus has moved even in the past 10 years. This thing is accelerating rapidly. I agree that not every bit of ice worldwide will melt. The highest mountains in the more extreme latitudes will keep some of their glacial ice, and some will remain in Antarctica. And this process that was once thought to span many centuries is now looking like we are talking generations instead of centuries. That still isn't overnight, and most of us will not see Miami go completely underwater, but it is moving MUCH faster than anybody believed possible 20 years ago.
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)more on the thermal aspect here
thermal expansion has been about 60 percent or so, maybe 2/3, up to this point. That ratio is changing as ice sheets speed up.
see also
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)and with CO2 and Methane you get something else that the graph goes back to if extended.
dougolat
(716 posts)greenman3610
(3,947 posts)enough so that you'd have an ice age.
that is, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, depending on how high we go.
There is no going back on any time scale relevant to humans.