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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 06:02 PM Dec 2013

1969. Smothers Brothers writing cast wins Emmy after CBS cancelled the show.

I was so angry when they cancelled that show. We never missed a single one. I have felt the same over everyone MSNBC has cancelled in recent years...like Donahue, Olbermann, Schultz, and Bashir. Same song, second verse.

Recognize some of the writers and presenters? What a great show that was!



1969 Emmy Awards, Smothers Brothers writing team speech. After CBS cancelled their show, of course. Among the winners: Bob Einstein (aka Super Dave Osborne) and a very young Steve Martin.

Here is an excerpt from a long interview of Tom and Dick Smothers



Uploaded on Dec 12, 2011

Tom Smothers and Dick Smothers were interviewed for nearly three hours in Las Vegas, NV in 2000.
See the entire interview http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/dick-smothers

I think the reason our side doesn't fight back harder when stuff like the firings named above happens is because of the decades of influence by the DLC and The Third Way. They have advocated a kind of bipartisanship with extremists on the right. I would like to think our party is recovering from this, but I don't really believe it yet.

And of course a classic moment in the show. Just for fun.

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1969. Smothers Brothers writing cast wins Emmy after CBS cancelled the show. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2013 OP
Loved the Smothers Brothers. They are still relevant today. 1monster Dec 2013 #1
Loved their show. shenmue Dec 2013 #2
Bob "Super Dave Osborn" Einstein is Albert Brooks' brother, for those who didn't know. pacalo Dec 2013 #3
I didn't know that 2naSalit Dec 2013 #6
I liked them a lot, too. Super Dave was so dead-pan funny. pacalo Dec 2013 #7
NO! But that was good! 2naSalit Dec 2013 #9
I loved the Flip Wilson show but I must have missed that one. pacalo Dec 2013 #10
That was the first 2naSalit Dec 2013 #11
Your analysis is spot on. pacalo Dec 2013 #12
I liked his "Officer Judy" bit. 2naSalit Dec 2013 #13
Officer Judy pulls over Liberace (from Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour)... pacalo Dec 2013 #15
And little has changed sense then. zeemike Dec 2013 #4
One of my all time favorite shows. Nt newfie11 Dec 2013 #5
Disgraceful they haven't won The Mark Twain Prize Faygo Kid Dec 2013 #8
Perhaps they're on the board 2naSalit Dec 2013 #16
Mason Williams, who wrote for them, is still creating music RainDog Dec 2013 #14
I loved Classical Gas! 2naSalit Dec 2013 #17
When I was a kid, we used to say "Them Poems" out loud RainDog Dec 2013 #18
That's interesting 2naSalit Dec 2013 #20
Read the liner notes at the cd baby link RainDog Dec 2013 #21
I'll do that, thanks! 2naSalit Dec 2013 #22
Dion - Abraham, Martin, & John MinM Dec 2013 #19

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
3. Bob "Super Dave Osborn" Einstein is Albert Brooks' brother, for those who didn't know.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:04 PM
Dec 2013

Their now-deceased half brother, Charles Einstein, wrote for Lou Grant, another of my favorite tv shows that was axed due to politics (Reagan had issues with Ed Asner).

Thanks for the OP.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
6. I didn't know that
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:23 PM
Dec 2013

and I really liked both of those guys when I used to watch TeeVee back then. I will never forget Albert Brooks' ventriloquist routine, I laughed so hard I couldn't breathe. And the Smothers Brothers did that regularly.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
7. I liked them a lot, too. Super Dave was so dead-pan funny.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:38 PM
Dec 2013

Is this ventriloquist routine the one that you remember?

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
9. NO! But that was good!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:58 PM
Dec 2013

This must be an evolution of his idea of ventriloquist parody acts. Amazing what you can do with a kids' alphabet toy and a Mr. Potatohead kit.

The one I recall was on the Flip Wilson Show... this one:



Can't believe I found this! Now I'm feeling old!

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
11. That was the first
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:29 PM
Dec 2013

I had ever heard of him. You can see why I never forgot. Back then comedy was in the full swing of the shift from Vaudeville being the norm, Ventriloquists were still regulars on TeeVee when I was a kid and this shift, with the help of Laugh-in and TSBS, a big change took place. Johnny Carson was a big advocate of that change too. I remember watching Perry Como and Steve Allen and Milton Berle... good gawd, they were funny but the 60s and 70s called for a more right brain sort of comedy and parody and that's where these younger guys were.

Hard to find stuff that makes you laugh like that these days.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
12. Your analysis is spot on.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:11 PM
Dec 2013

Btw, I found a couple of "Super Dave Osborne" clips that highlight his dead-pan delivery:






2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
13. I liked his "Officer Judy" bit.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:21 PM
Dec 2013

And he played that one for a while until he came up with this. And Dave Osborne seems to be the prototype for some of Will Farrell's characters. Wonder if they've ever met.

Those are good!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. And little has changed sense then.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:16 PM
Dec 2013

Phil Donahue met the same fate...and during the last three wars the truth has been silenced.

Smothers Brothers was a must see for me in those days...and they had some great guests.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
8. Disgraceful they haven't won The Mark Twain Prize
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:49 PM
Dec 2013

for American Comedy from The Kennedy Center.

Actually saw them there about 5 years ago. They were great. They don't perform anymore, but that was the best show ever on TV, and one of the most important.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
16. Perhaps they're on the board
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:02 PM
Dec 2013

or in some capacity where they might not be eligible, though that's seems like it would be a stretch. They certainly deserve such recognition.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
14. Mason Williams, who wrote for them, is still creating music
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:34 PM
Dec 2013

He's a really interesting person - the composer of Classical Gas - also wrote for SNL. He has created "artist books" or art installations - one is a greyhound bus photograph packed into a suitcase, and recently his compositions were rearranged and recorded by the GREAT classical guitarist Carlos Barbosa-Lima, on a cd called North South.

I think you can hear some samples here.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/carlosbarbosalima2

I love Chico Hot Springs.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
17. I loved Classical Gas!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:11 PM
Dec 2013

Mason Williams is still composing? I remember the "Greyhound" poster, my brother had one of those, saved up for a long time to get it too but I don't recall how he managed to get it. I do remember my dad getting mad about it because his room wasn't big enough to put it up, but that big "Hobbit" picture made it on the wall.

Interesting he has some music named after places up near where I live like Chico Hot Springs and McCall, well McCall isn't that close but it's in the general region.

Thanks for reminding me, at least, about him.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
18. When I was a kid, we used to say "Them Poems" out loud
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:36 PM
Dec 2013

Williams is also friends with Ed Ruscha, who recently had a big exhibition, irrc, in L.A. He's the guy who did Twentysix Gasoline Stations, which has some aesthetics in common with the Greyhound Bus photograph.

Your brother had one? I'm so jealous!!! I would love to find one of those I could afford. Which means it would have to be just about free, lol, so that ain't gonna happen.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
20. That's interesting
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:44 PM
Dec 2013

I remember he recited some of his poems on TSBS but also on some other shows but then he seemed to disappear. I think my brother ended up selling that poster because he couldn't put it up anywhere. that was sooo long ago! Would be nice to have one though.

I'll have to look up Ed Ruscha, not sure I've seen his work.

Gotta go, it's getting cold in here and I need to stoke the fire (it's about -15F outside) it's kind of hard to get the temp back up when the solid items get cold.

Later.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
21. Read the liner notes at the cd baby link
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:51 PM
Dec 2013

The guy who wrote them is also an excellent guitarist who wrote for the New SB, among other things, and now writes about living guitar legends for Vintage Guitar magazine. He also wrote a book with interviews with great guitarists who aren't name brands outside of the musician mafia and studios, etc. Last I heard, he's doing a second version with other guitarists.

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