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Decided to search for this tonight.. dunno why..
but this video popped up...
I neither take a stance of agreement or disagreement with the speaker..
just thought it was interesting enough to post. *shrugs*
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)edited to say I think it's Webster Tarpley come to think of it.. drawing from the way back memory files of his voice and thought processes.. haven't heard him in years though.. (or is it Michel Chossudovsky?)
I find it totally irritating wrt sound editing, doesn't id the speaker.
I'm finding it really difficult to follow his 'stream of consciousness' as it were.. I also find it really interesting how much hate and loathing the speaker has for Snowden and Assange.. it's sort of weird.
shanemcg
(80 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)It is Webster Tarpley .. went to the youtube source page and saw his name referenced.
Ok.. So Tarpley thinks Snowden is a put up job by the intelligence establishment? and I guess he's suggesting Assange is an agent too?
Or is he just dissing him for being an establishment hacker, as opposed to a genuine revolutionary? It's weird because I never thought of Snowden as a revolutionary, just a hacker turned whistleblower.
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Again, I don't consider Snowden as a brilliant revolutionary, clearly he's a bit naive for that matter.
However, I do give him huge applause for what I consider extremely courageous stand on exposing NSA. But holding him to account for an apathetic public is simply unfair as far as I'm concerned. That's up to us. I'm speculating at the moment, but it seems that Greenwald's holding back. Might be waiting till all the ducks in place at Intercept First Look, maybe. But I do agree there's something seems to be amiss..
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Hersh told HuffPost that he went to the Post because of the papers reporting on documents provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.
In the Syria article, Hersh mentioned the Post's Aug. 29 report on the U.S. government's secret "black budget" for intelligence programs. He wrote that the leaked document revealed that "the NSA no longer had access to the conversations of the top military leadership in Syria, which would have included crucial communications from Assad, such as orders for a nerve gas attack."
Hersh also cited the Posts reporting on a secret sensor system that he wrote would have been expected to detect Assad's regime preparing for a chemical attack in the days leading up to it.
It's unclear exactly why the Post decided not to publish the story. Hersh wrote that he was told by email that Executive Editor Marty Baron decided that the sourcing in the article did not meet the Post's standards.
Baron and a spokesperson for the Post did not respond to requests for comment on Sunday night.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/08/seymour-hersh-syria-report_n_4409674.html
We knew the spying began before 911, because of Qwest
Did the NSAs massive call records database program pre-date the terrorist attacks of 9/11?
That startling allegation is in court documents released this week which show that former Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio the head of the only company known to have turned down the NSAs requests for Americans phone records tried, unsuccessfully, to argue just that in his defense against insider trading charges.
Nacchio was sentenced to 6 years in prison in 2007 after being found guilty of illegally selling shares based on insider information that the companys fortunes were declining. Nacchio unsuccessfully attempted to defend himself by arguing that he actually expected Qwests 2001 earnings to be higher because of secret NSA contracts, which, he contends, were denied by the NSA after he declined in a February 27, 2001 meeting to give the NSA customer calling records, court documents released this week show.
AT&T, Verizon and Bellsouth all agreed to turn over call records to an NSA database, according to reporting in the USA Today in 2006. At that time, Nacchios lawyer publicly stated that Nacchio declined to participate until served with a proper legal order.
http://www.wired.com/2007/10/nsa-asked-for-p/
Snowden mentioned Abumuttallab and ignored the Haskell allegations
A spokesperson for the CIA, the agency which was approached by Abdulmutallabs father, called into question Snowdens general theory told ABC News the agency doesnt put a lot of stock in Snowdens tips for improving our intelligence capabilities.
The Agency is a versatile global organization that is more than capable of addressing a range of national security threats simultaneously and it does so every day, the spokesperson said. Anyone suggesting otherwise is seriously misinformed.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/03/snowden-wasted-surveillance-resources-may-have-stopped-boston-bombing/
According to Lori Haskell, the second man told the ticket agent: "We need to get this man on the plane. He doesn't have a passport." The ticket agent said nobody was allowed to board without a passport. The well-dressed man replied: "We do this all the time; he's from Sudan."[13][14] Lori Haskell said the two men were directed down a corridor, to talk to a manager. "We never saw him again until he tried to blow up our plane," Lori Haskell said of Abdulmutallab.[12]
Only U.S. citizens are permitted to board international flights to the U.S. without passports, and even then only if the airline confirms their identity and citizenship, said a spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).[15] A CBP official and spokesman confirmed there were not any Sudanese refugees on the plane.[15] The Dutch counter-terror agency said that Abdulmutallab presented a valid Nigerian passport and U.S. entry visa when he boarded Flight 253.[16] After reviewing more than 200 hours of security camera recordings, it did not find any indication that he had accomplices at the airport or that he acted suspiciously there.[17]
Haskell suggested authorities should, "Put the video out there to prove I'm wrong."[18] Federal agents later said they were trying to identify and find the well-dressed man. U.S. authorities had initially discounted the passenger accounts, but agents later said there was a growing belief that the man played a role in ensuring Abdulmutallab "did not get cold feet".[19]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253