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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:34 AM Apr 2014

"We Are Not Beginning a New Cold War, We Are Well Into It": Stephen Cohen on Russia-Ukraine Crisis


“For the first time in my lifetime, since the Cuban missile crisis, hot war with Russia is imaginable,” Nation contributing editor Stephen Cohen told Democracy Now!’s Amy Goodman on Thursday. Cohen, a Russia historian and expert on US-Russia relations, slammed the Obama administration for suggesting that the crisis in Ukraine was exclusively due to “Putin’s meddling,” and warned against a build-up of NATO forces near Russia’s borders. In an effort to end the crisis, Russia, Ukraine, the US and the European Union will begin talks today in Geneva. “Putin will compromise at these negotiations,” Cohen warned, “but he will not back off if confronted militarily.”
—Sam Adler-Bell
http://www.thenation.com/blog/179399/stephen-cohen-new-cold-war-already-underway

Transcript
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/17/we_are_not_beginning_a_new
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"We Are Not Beginning a New Cold War, We Are Well Into It": Stephen Cohen on Russia-Ukraine Crisis (Original Post) jakeXT Apr 2014 OP
Thanks for this post...and transcript link. KoKo Apr 2014 #1
Fear and more fear. dotymed Apr 2014 #2
Neo-Cons moving toward the center to try to restart the MIC. DhhD Apr 2014 #3
Good catch! another_liberal Apr 2014 #4
Great Post! swilton Apr 2014 #5
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Apr 2014 #6
Excellent discussion as always on Democracy NOW newthinking Apr 2014 #7
Du rec for another great DN discussion n/t Catherina Apr 2014 #8

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
2. Fear and more fear.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:26 AM
Apr 2014

Both countries are run by oligarchs (U.S. and Russia) Keeping their citizens in fear is needed by both countries. Putins popularity was
dropping before this incident, now it is at 80%.. neither country wants its citizens to peek behind their curtain.
IMO, Obama has (at least) made terrible choices in dealing with Russia. Unless, of course, this is just more Kabuki theater to distract citizens from what is becoming evident and officially reported ("Study proves America is now officially Oligarchy not Democracy&quot . Now Obama "wants to save face" over his previous ultimatums to Russia (including the aggressive sanctions) yet he had no problem negotiating away universal health care for Americans before the official "negotiations" even began.
Either this administration is creating an environment charged for a "hot war" with Russia (another cold war has already began) or it is increasing the Kabuki theater in an attempt to stall the inevitable realization (by the masses) of Americas status as a non-democratic oligarchy.
We don't see this type of behavior coming from Sweden, Germany, Iceland, etc. These countries are Democratic and answerable to their citizens. America and Russia (each with outlandish military arsenals and starving citizens) are answerable to their corporate and military masters. "Our" SCOTUS has codified this (finally). It was happening illegally prior to their decision to bring the corporate masters
into a "legal person-hood status."
Democracy in America is dead. I am not particularly blaming Obama, it would've eventually become evident to the masses anyway.
I can only hope that the masses will realize this and protest by the millions to change it. I believe that if we had a gop administration it would be worse and probably slower surfacing or surfacing at the end of a gun.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
3. Neo-Cons moving toward the center to try to restart the MIC.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:49 AM
Apr 2014

Looks like Condi Rice wants to start a war with Russia. Being VP of the United States, Foreign Policy would be her job duty.
http://praag.org/?p=13466
A VP run with war fascist, Jeb Bush could wake up the voters in this country. It should scare the hell out of us all.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
4. Good catch!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

Thanks for posting this.

It's great to know there are still some people who haven't gone off the deep end absolutely "Russia-hatin-crazy."

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