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(3,910 posts) Thu May 15, 2014, 10:11 AM May 2014

The Rebranding of The Clintons

Hillary Clinton has a huge disadvantage heading into the 2016 elections – everyone in the country knows that she is a pro-corporate candidate. Bill Clinton is now hitting the road, trying to convince the American public that he and Hillary are the definition of populist, but the public isn’t buying it.

Ring of Fire’s Mike Papantonio discusses this with best-selling author Thomas Frank.

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The Rebranding of The Clintons (Original Post) GoLeft TV May 2014 OP

"huge disadvantage" VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #1

Agreed, so many want to vote for her rock May 2014 #2

In a vacuum, Hillary is likeable enough... yallerdawg May 2014 #3

Third Way Democrats raindaddy May 2014 #4

Bingo. loudsue May 2014 #5

I agree. I would vote for her; if I was in a vacuum, and that was the only way to get air. Katashi_itto May 2014 #11

Fascinating discussion. Thanks! RufusTFirefly May 2014 #6

Yep the Republicans purpose it zeemike May 2014 #7

Ewwww. NYC_SKP May 2014 #8

Lawrence Wilkerson swilton May 2014 #9

...but Bill was SMOOOOTH. bvar22 May 2014 #10

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)

1. "huge disadvantage"

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 10:21 AM

May 2014

hahahahahaha

rock

(13,218 posts)

2. Agreed, so many want to vote for her

Reply to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #1)

Thu May 15, 2014, 10:34 AM

May 2014

that the polls are completely congested.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

3. In a vacuum, Hillary is likeable enough...

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 11:26 AM

May 2014

but if Hillary doesn't have major baggage, how did an upstart like Obama beat her?

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)

4. Third Way Democrats

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Thu May 15, 2014, 11:40 AM

May 2014

They're all populists until they get elected.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)

5. Bingo.

Reply to raindaddy (Reply #4)

Thu May 15, 2014, 12:41 PM

May 2014

No matter what race, gender or background....they all toe the corporatist line in the end.

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)

11. I agree. I would vote for her; if I was in a vacuum, and that was the only way to get air.

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Fri May 16, 2014, 08:17 AM

May 2014

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Yes, at that point I would have no problem with her.

Otherwise, I plan on having waffles that day.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)

6. Fascinating discussion. Thanks!

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 12:47 PM

May 2014

I wish Papantonio didn't interrupt Frank as much as he did though.
(Part of it may be a Skype thing, I realize. I've had similar problems in Skype meetings.)

I think the discussion makes an important point that although corporate Democrats seem to maintain traditional populist positions in certain social issues, it's in the economic area that they are dismantling the legacy of the New Deal. There's also an alarming congruence on foreign policy with Republicans and corporate Democrats, but this wasn't discussed.)

zeemike

(18,998 posts)

7. Yep the Republicans purpose it

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 01:03 PM

May 2014

And the Dems make it happen.
More and more they look like a team.

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

8. Ewwww.

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 01:14 PM

May 2014

Ewwww. Ewwww. Ewwww. Ewwww. Ewwww. Ewwww. Ewwww.

Can we PLEASE PROGRESS???

Can we just leave the awful 1990's where they are, in the past?

Would these people just stop with their egoistic self-indulgent power trip and go away and enjoy their millions and let somebody WHO ACTUALLY CARES run for office.

God Damn It.

swilton

(5,069 posts)

9. Lawrence Wilkerson

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 03:50 PM

May 2014

on TRNN this week said that she and Jeb are the front runners but he considers her 'unelectable'.

About 8 minutes in he discusses the 2016 election - @ 8:40-45 -

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11833

bvar22

(39,909 posts)

10. ...but Bill was SMOOOOTH.

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 04:24 PM

May 2014

Bill Clinton was so smooooooth that he could tell America's Working Class
that if they competed with 3rd World Slave Labor for their jobs, it would be GOOD for them,
and America's Working Class BELIEVED him.

Hillary?
...not so smooth.
She will NEED Bill's help to get elected.
They have a lot to overcome.

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