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greenman3610

(3,947 posts)
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 08:25 AM Jun 2014

New Video on Antarctic Melt: Meltwater Pulse 2B



Newest research from the Antarctic is sobering, to say the least.
This is one of my most important and urgent videos, and supports the need for newly announced
carbon regs.
Please view and consider spreading.
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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
1. we are in deep doo doo
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 09:03 AM
Jun 2014

unless there is an extreme reversal of the critical damage humans are wreaking on our spaceship earth.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
4. I think the point is it's too late to reverse the glacier meltdown
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:41 AM
Jun 2014

I cannot believe places like Miami and Norfolk are still talking about building sea walls, etc. which would protect them from a foot or so of rising ocean levels; that insurers are still paying people to rebuild or repair flood damaged properties in those areas. The govt. should be putting programs in place to educate coastal populations on the need to relocate and giving them some tax breaks or other financial incentive to do so.

Meanwhile, if you have family or friends in these areas, particularly older people, do what you can to get them to sell out while they still can find foolish buyers, and move to higher ground.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
14. No, there's no financial funding to buy political will to deal with the problem.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 12:52 PM
Jun 2014

Only the free market is free. Congress is not.

padruig

(133 posts)
5. applause please
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

I want to applaud Mr. Sinclairs efforts in producing this and the other videos he has made. They do a good job of conveying the character of some of the current research in climate and do it in an entertaining and engaging fashion.

It has been estimated that the total output of the glaciers in the Amundsen Sea embayment is at least equal to the ice mass in Greenland. Melting of the glaciers in the Amundsen would rise sea levels by 5 meters.

If you would like more information I would suggest the two following primers ...

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-147

http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
6. Very powerful video, and even more alarming than I'd realized.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

It's one thing to anticipate a gradual rise over decades, with occasional intervals of hurricanes and massive storm surges. But the concept of a meltwater pulse? particularly in low lying coastal areas like Florida with massive numbers of residents packed in close to the coasts?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. Did you see disaster film "2012" in which most drown but elite escape?
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

This film follows a different scientific scenario as to cause of ice melt/ocean level rise:

"An American geologist, visits astrophysicist Dr. Satnam Tsurutani in India and learns that neutrinos from a massive solar flare are causing the temperature of the Earth's core to rapidly increase. Arriving at a party in Washington D.C., Helmsley presents his info to White House Chief of Staff Carl Anheuser who takes him to meet the President.

"In 2010, U.S. President Thomas Wilson and other international leaders begin a secret project to ensure humanity's survival. More than 400,000 people are chosen to board enormous "arks" constructed at Cho Ming, Tibet, in the southwest Chinese Himalayas. A Buddhist monk named Nima is evacuated while his brother Tenzin joins the Ark project. Additional funding is raised by selling tickets for €1 billion per person."


However, in the real world - not the world of disaster films, one wonders what the one percenters anticipate and how they are planning for it. I see them as the canaries in the coal mine. Selling off their beach front estates?

greenman3610

(3,947 posts)
10. Exxon currently "hardening assets" against extreme weather
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014
http://climatecrocks.com/2014/05/30/irony-deficiency-climate-change-a-high-priority-at-exxon/

The company has taken a “very broad view to where we can harden our assets, where we can harden our facilities” in light of the climate changes. “We learned a lot through some of the terrible storms that we’ve been through on the Gulf Coast,” said Tillerson. “Where we see opportunities to do so, we are hardening our own facilities and assets.”

smallcat88

(426 posts)
9. Neil deGrasse Tyson
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jun 2014

did an excellent job on last night's Cosmos of explaining how humans are behind this trend, it's not just Mother Earth going through a natural climate change. He likened the amount of CO2 we're pumping into the atmosphere to the cliffs of Dover. Anyone who missed it should check it out on Hulu.
The one thing I'm afraid they're not mentioning is that we may already be (probably are) past the point of no return. I weep for future generations.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. Miami and sea bordering cities
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jun 2014

become the new Venices of America while Venice disappears . And they are still building on the seashores and selling properties at inflated prices. When I wanted to buy a ocean side lot a few decades back, my parents told me that when they were growing up people avoided the shore and wise people would invest in property high and dry. Seems they were right.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
17. Not the psycopaths who would greatly profit from the resulting sea rise;
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

But the asshats who sincerely, albeit stupidly and who drank deeply from the Kool-Aid, live out the centuries until WWIV occurs and there is nothing left of humanity but Einstein's phrase (I had no known of the previous statements of his quotes but his is the more profound, IMO; "I don't know. But I can tell you what they'll use in the fourth. They'll use rocks!&quot . Another variant ('I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones') is attributed to an unidentified letter to Harry S. Truman in "The culture of Einstein" by Alex Johnson, MSNBC, (18 April 2005). However, prior to 1948 very similar quotes were attributed in various articles to an unnamed army lieutenant, as discussed at Quote Investigator : "The Futuristic Weapons of WW3 Are Unknown, But WW4 Will Be Fought With Stones and Spears". The earliest found was from “Quote and Unquote: Raising ‘Alarmist’ Cry Brings a Winchell Reply” by Walter Winchell, in the Wisconsin State Journal (23 September 1946), p. 6, Col. 3. In this article Winchell wrote:

Joe Laitin reports that reporters at Bikini were questioning an army lieutenant about what weapons would be used in the next war.
“I dunno,” he said, “but in the war after the next war, sure as Hell, they’ll be using spears!”

It seems plausible, therefore, that Einstein may have been quoting or paraphrasing an expression which he had heard or read elsewhere.

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