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(53,801 posts)The unfairness of it all will always haunt Israel until there is a FAIR Palestinian state solution not some bantustan, apartheid charade.
Archae
(46,340 posts)"Israel added Uranium to orange juice"
"Ahmadinejad awarded for helping Jews around the world"
"Evidence of Israeli troops executing 6 Palestinians in a toilet"
Galraedia
(5,026 posts)...despite the fact that more Jews Live in the U.S. than in Israel.
Archae
(46,340 posts)This video is viciously anti-Jew, as are most of the other videos posted by this Youtube user.
Is this yet another "Palestinians can do no wrong, Israel and Jews can do no right" -type post?
Sure does look that way.
Galraedia
(5,026 posts)Claiming the video is "viciously anti-Jew" because you disagree with the other videos the user has uploaded on Youtube is ridiculous. I also love how you keep using Jews to refer to Israel when not all Jews are Israelis. Israel is a country. Israel doesn't represent all Jews, the same way Saudi Arabia doesn't represent all Muslims. And this isn't a "Palestinians can do no wrong, Israel can do no right" video, it's a history lesson into why this conflict exists.
enough
(13,260 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Every settlement expansion is theft, pure and simple.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)show that they can enforce a peace agreement. Israel has abandoned territory and turned it back to the Palestinians. Palestinians need to show that they can enforce peace if they receive returned land. That's how peace is won. That's how negotiations work.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Israel has not abandoned any territory in the West Bank. They only pulled out of Gaza because it was a security nightmare for them. Even after withdrawing, they turned the place into a vast prison.
For the Israelis to demand total peace, while continuing to abuse the Palestinians is absurd. And without a national policing agency, it is an impossible thing to ask given all the accumulated hatred on both sides. It is the typical Israeli impossible demand to kill any peace deal.
The Saudis offered a workable, just peace plan that included the mainline Arab countries recognizing Israel and agreeing to cooperation. The Palestinians agreed to that deal. The Israelis turned it down flat.
alp227
(32,044 posts)In its attempt to delegitimize Israel, the film portrays it as an artificial foreign entity that was created by a colonialist power, the British, and sustained through the support of todays superpower, the U.S., against the interests of the indigenous population. It minimizes Jewish connection to the land and the international legitimacy given to the State of Israel, as well as Israels success in creating a vibrant democratic state.
At the same time, the film plays down Palestinian accountability, portraying Palestinian and Arab violence as almost a non-factor in the conflict. Some of the interviewees denounce suicide bombings as a counterproductive tactic, but the film contextualizes such bombings as weapons of the weak. For the most part, the film simply ignores the issue of terrorism, portraying all outbreaks of Palestinian violence as popular and legitimate reactions to injustice and oppression. For example, the films narrator whitewashes the 1929 pogroms against the ancient Jewish communities in Safad and Hebron as a reaction to land confiscations.
Galraedia
(5,026 posts)They've also honored Fox News' Rupert Murdoch and are also wrong about the weapons capabilities Israel had access to in 1948. http://balagan.info/weapons-and-vehicles-of-the-arab-israeli-wars#Artillery
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)Galraedia
(5,026 posts)They even go so far as to accuse Jewish groups that criticize Israel as being anti-semetic.
I dont think that everybody realizes the amount of Jews that are involved in some anti-Israel activity in this country, Oren Segal, who directs the ADLs Center on Extremism, told Salon Monday. They are saying, You are Jews, but your way of being Jews is not OK, countered Sydney Levy, advocacy director for Jewish Voice for Peace. I qualify that as anti-semitism.
Mondays report is a follow-up to a previous 2010 list released by the ADL. Segal emphasized that the ADL was not accusing all ten of the organizations which include Christian, Muslim, and Jewish groups of being anti-semitic. But he argued that tracking anti-Israel activity was very consistent with our fight against bigotry, because Israel is sort of a convenient entity, for many years, for many people to espouse bigotry.
Segal said that the ADL was not against all criticism of Israeli government policy, but offered three criteria for identifying what he sees as potentially anti-semitic arguments: First, the notion that Israel is controlling the government and media; second, offensive parallels referencing the Holocaust; and third, calls for dismantling Israel as a Jewish state. While any one of those may not automatically signify anti-semitism, argued Segal,When we contextualize that, then we sort of can decide whether we think theyre crossing the line or not.
Source: http://www.salon.com/2013/10/22/anti_defamation_league_slams_jewish_groups_for_israel_criticism/
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)You said:
ADL is the same group that claims that all Israel critics are anti-semites.
From your "proof": "Segal said that the ADL was not against all criticism of Israeli government policy"
Then you claim:They even go so far as to accuse Jewish groups that criticize Israel as being anti-semetic.
And again, from your source: "Segal emphasized that the ADL was not accusing all ten of the organizations which include Christian, Muslim, and Jewish groups of being anti-semitic."
Fail.
Galraedia
(5,026 posts)Heres the part of the article where I rehearse, once again, my own centrist bona fides. I am a two-stater, J-Streeter, and progressive Zionist. I have been vilified by some on the Left for being an apologist for colonialism, racism, and genocide. I do not support BDS, and do not believe the State of Israel is inherently immoral. Okay?
But this is ridiculous.
First, what were the criteria for the ADLs list? Support for BDS, participating in anti-Israel activities, and supporting anti-Israel policies. In fact, none of these is actually anti-Israel.
Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/22/once-again-the-anti-defamation-league-defames.html