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Related: About this forumMcCain Makes Revealing Slip on Fox: Obama Didn’t Want to ‘Arm ISIS’
The senator proceeded to seriously misspeak when he described a 2013 meeting in the White House in which everyone on the administrations national security team recommended arming ISIS. But, he explained, the president, by himself, turned it down.
Botany
(70,510 posts)BTW Isn't that you w/the head of ISIS (al Baghdadi) in 2013?
You war mongering idiot, if you were president we would be in the throws of war with Finland and Sweden.... "The senator proceeded to seriously misspeak when he described a 2013 meeting in the White House in which everyone on the administrations national security team recommended arming ISIS. But, he explained, the president, by himself, turned it down.
What does that mean to you McCain.....he refused to arm the people you want us to fight....Time To Retire..your mind is gone
pegasusnnm
(2 posts)This guy really needs to retire. There needs to be a change in consciousness. WAR WAR WAR these guys all have shares in the Military Industrial Complex. Billions!!! Stop the Madness. Listen to him, 'American credibility!' We are the killers along with the other low lifes crawling and fighting for what??? Republicans are now humanitarians? I doubt it. These people want the Pentagon to rule the world.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Purportedly showing McCain meeting with ISIS fighters early on.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10089697/John-McCain-denies-he-knowingly-posed-with-with-rebel-kidnappers-in-Syria.html
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I'm looking for some independent & reliable source other than McCain himself, who of course is going to deny he met with iSIS.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)They answered a fighter from Northern Storm Brigade, but in a Time video this organization is shown calling for the Caliphate.
I watched a video made by TIME magazine about the Northern Storm Brigade from this website: http://www.trackingterrorism.org/group/azaz-northern-storm-brigade
The video is here: http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,2280140412001_2140288,00.html
At 4'45" into the video one of the speakers calls for the re-establishment of the Caliphate, which is what the Islamic State (IS, ISIS, ISIL) is meant to do. I don't see a lot of difference between the two, Northern Storm Brigade and IS, if you see what I mean.
benld74
(9,904 posts)Veilex
(1,555 posts)I find myself yelling "NO!!!!" at the computer monitor.
I'm sick of my brothers and sisters in arms being sacrificed for corporate profits.
Fuck these bastards! They want more war?
They should personally go over there and wage the war they want.
Pardon my language. Hard to be civil with all these lives being thrown away for some schmuck one percenter to make yet even more in profits while those at home, the ones that actually matter, are suffering more and more each day.
I don't their sacrifices to be in vain...
To absent friends...
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)our own enemies so that we have people who we can fight and who can terrorize us.
This guarantees a bonanza for military and surveillance expenditure.
And takes away money that we could spend on our own infrastructure.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)Seems like this is exactly what's going on here.
as for McGramps, I think there's a tiger cage in Vietnam with his name on it.
Waiting....
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,977 posts)ISIS is trolling for obama to do the same thing. and so far, ONLY THE PUBLKANS + GNEWZ MEDIA has taken the bait.
EEO
(1,620 posts)The man is a shameless self-promoter and would be great as a pundit.
No one should be taking advice from McCain-Bomb-Bomb-Iran-And-Sarah-Palin-For-Vice-President.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)Glenn can be a cryin' regular...but no more adult, serious politics for this wacked out warrier.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)only under a new brand name. McCain is laying out the case to combine Iraq and Syria just as ISIS does in their name and actions. He threw Libya into the mix too. When Wes Clark said there was a plan to "take out 7 countries in five year" 3 of those were: Iraq, Libya and Syria.
Btw, Why would a fanatical Sunni/wahabbi sect choose an English acronym for their name? In the Middle East Isis is better known as the name for:
http://www.babynamewizard.com/baby-name/girl/isis
It seems odd to reject the boundaries drawn by England after WW1 yet name yourself in English rather than Arabic, also to use "state" rather than "republic" as most other Islamic countries have. The name ISIS (which evokes the word "crisis" seems aimed at an English speaking audience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq#British_Mandate_and_Kingdom
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)I think they chose the name to imply local origin and control, while in reality being a foreign driven organization
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The Islamic State of Iraq was established to try to put an Iraqi face on what is a foreign-driven network, Bergner said. The name Baghdadi means the person hails from the Iraqi capital.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/07/18/us-iraq-qaeda-idUSL1820065720070718
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)imthevicar
(811 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Blue Owl
(50,392 posts)n/t