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zeemike
(18,998 posts)Trying to keep their country safe.
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(595 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)equating Nazi death camps to the USA is insulting to survivors of the Holocaust, to the memory of its victims, and to the US troops that fought and died to liberate the fucking camps.
No graphic warning makes this post torture porn.
You should be ashamed
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Does ensure that the USA will rank inside some future "Hall of Fame" for Sadists Most Unholy.
The "Commies" we saw killed in Greece after WWII, the six million people that we killed, wounded or made homeless in Vietnam, the millions upon millions who suffered and died in Cambodia while "our ally" Pol Pot strong armed youth divisions in Cambodia, the people our nation saw killed in Central America, who probably numbered in the hundreds of thousands, and the close to one million civilians in Iraq, all those dead or wounded certainly won't bring us even close to having a reputation as a Mother Teresa among nations.
And now it seems that these wars are being brought home here, where all a young person has to do to be murdered at the hands of a police officer is simply to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Tell that to the kid whose parents were just killed by one of our drones.
It makes me sick to think that we have not evolved to being the peacekeepers we like to think of ourselves as. Instead, we are one of the worlds greatest threats. We create more terrorists than we kill.
Our country has been taken over by greed. Plain and simple. We are morally corrupt.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Various leaders in Pakistan and Afghanistan, often from rivaling clans, undertake the journey to Washington DC to tell the Congressional critters how the American War on Terror is often targeting the wrong people, and they can't even get a two minute meeting with someone in the House of Representatives or the US Senate.
That teaches them first hand how rotten to the core our government and our elected officials are.
Now if only those tribal leaders were lobbyists for some tennis racquet firm, or had an in with Di Feinstein!
My Grandparents were tortured and murderd by the Nazis. This video is not an insult to Holocaust victims, but as reminder of what's down the path for us if we continue to let ourselves become consumed by hate.
Vox Moi
(546 posts)All my life I've heard people say that the Nazis were evil and just let it go at that.
Move along, nothing to learn here.
Nazis were people and a lot of Germans were not Nazis and therein is a very important cautionary tale.
In the book 'They Thought They Were Free" and in many other works on what happened in Germany, the theme of gradualism is prominent. Little steps towards intolerance, fear, prejudice and the need to suspend, in tiny increments, moral and practical values in the name of
what did the Nazis promise?
- Jobs
- Security
- A storybook ideal of the country as a mono-cultural oasis devoted to Aryans as opposed to everyone else: even non-Aryans who lived in Germany at the time. The 'War on Christmas' is right out of Gobbels' playbook.
Exceptionalism: the sense that it's isn't what we do that define us, it's who we imagine ourselves to be.
The repetition of 'America is the Greatest Country in History' and 'The World Needs our Leadership' papers over the tragic consequences of the belief that the standards we hold others to (Nuremberg domes to mind) do not apply to us and that we are somehow immune to the the dark side of human nature.
Our crimes are mistakes - something akin to unfortunate accidents. The Tonkin Incident never happened. The WMDs did not exist. We tortured folks. Move along, nothing to learn here.
What the German people learned is a lesson we - humans - need to take to heart: that there is a tipping point wherein the compromises and exceptions made in the name of some 'greater good' become the rule and suddenly, it's too late.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Observation.
Mike Malloy had a discussion once on his radio show, back in the Geo Bush days.
He asked the listening audience to explain when they thought that a nation could be headed into a Holocaust situation.
And after taking calls for two to two and half hours, he ended the discussion with his rather tragic conclusion.
What was it? Basically Mike said that once a nation decides that it is okay to torture or kill just one individual without trying to have a trial or present actual evidence of that person being a terrorist, then everything else is a matter of degrees.
If it is okay to kill one school kid in Pakistan, then it is okay to kill them all.
And same goes for citizens here. Many of us are wondering when it will happen here: when an activity that leads to parts of a major city targeted for looting by agent provacateurs and homeland security and the activity is blamed on protesters, then we protesters and dissidents will be labeled "terrorists" and the wars waged against Muslims overseas will be happening here at home.
(Just last week, the protesters in Oakland Calif. outed two fellow "protesters" as agent provacateurs. The protesters were immediately proven to be right as one of the two men so accused took out a gun and arrested one of the protesters who were accusing him of being a Federal agent or police. And these two men had been all about "Go ahead! It's time now to smash things up and loot!" before they were outed.)
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mazzarro
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newfie11
(8,159 posts)All kinds of excuses in this country but we did it!!!!
We are no better than the Nazis and we are STILL doing it in Guantanamo.
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)and until they do are far worst. But then I am reminded of Jeremy Scahill and the facts remain our democratic president has continued the war and taken measures further in some respects. Neverending war is profitable.
We have learned nothing from history.