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73 year old has expired sticker. (Original Post) zebonaut Dec 2014 OP
Way over the top for this situation.. DreamSmoker Dec 2014 #1
I see that pretty much everything happened where the dash cam could not record it. djean111 Dec 2014 #2
i noticed that, too. silverweb Dec 2014 #7
This kind of abuse has to stop! silverweb Dec 2014 #3
I think this succinctly explains at least part of the problem nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #13
yep, big time heaven05 Dec 2014 #23
News story here: Live and Learn Dec 2014 #4
In other words... silverweb Dec 2014 #6
That's what I got out of it, as well. nt Live and Learn Dec 2014 #18
How are parents suppose to explain this to their children? 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #5
Let's take you to the optician dickthegrouch Dec 2014 #8
Punk ass cop secondvariety Dec 2014 #9
the cop started the aggression passiveporcupine Dec 2014 #10
So he gets 'administrative leave' progressoid Dec 2014 #11
cop are a;ways right folks noiretextatique Dec 2014 #12
Really? WTF? blackspade Dec 2014 #14
What America is that cop from? The Jungle 1 Dec 2014 #15
Cop training has dramatically changed. stillwaiting Dec 2014 #20
tell your son to watch Serpico, and then read the recent article by the man himself. Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #24
Damn it all! And the asshole had to call for backup?! Owl Dec 2014 #16
In California it's a fix-it ticket with a $20 fine not even worth a cops mackerel Dec 2014 #17
Same think could happen in CA, trust me. nt Live and Learn Dec 2014 #19
Too many cops want to be dictators and be bowed down to. Quixote1818 Dec 2014 #21
This coward POS cop heaven05 Dec 2014 #22
Chief of police apologizes after officer uses Taser on 76-year-old man Live and Learn Dec 2014 #25
I wonder what we can do to help the elderly yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #26

DreamSmoker

(841 posts)
1. Way over the top for this situation..
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:24 PM
Dec 2014

Strong armed tactics used are way over the top for this kind of situation..
Its all about the training and leadership....
I imagine many of the officers on this Department do the very same crap over and over again..
This one was caught on camera...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. I see that pretty much everything happened where the dash cam could not record it.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:27 PM
Dec 2014

Looks like the police were more concerned with what the guy with the phone was doing; the guy who was evidently saying something to the cop who wrestled the 73 YO down, looks like the cop threatened him too.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
7. i noticed that, too.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:19 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Also noted that the radio volume in the patrol car was turned up, effectively drowning out what was said between the cop and his victim.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
3. This kind of abuse has to stop!
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:54 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Once upon a time, when I was a young, poor, single mom, I actually forged a sticker for my license plate. I needed to get the car from one back yard to another until I could afford to re-register. Meanwhile, I wasn't driving it except for this one transfer, about 2 miles.

As luck would have it, I got pulled over by a patrol car stopped right behind me at a red light. Instead of the ticket I fully expected (and couldn't afford), the officer kindly told me what was wrong with my forgery that caught his attention. Otherwise, he said, it was "not a bad job."

Had that happened today and I had a different skin color, I know that story would have a very different, probably violent ending.

Remember during W's reign, when our military was desperate for bodies and needed volunteers? They lowered the acceptance standards to include ex gang members, violent jailbirds, white supremacists, etc.

Our military taught them to fight and kill more efficiently, and eliminated what little conscience and human compassion these warped recruits might have had. Now, released from military service, a certain percentage of them have become police officers and brought that background with them.

I've been lucky enough to encounter the police only rarely and only in a helping way for the past 25 years. Then again, I'm white.

The Bush/Cheney legacy lives on today in the abuse and suffering of our citizens of color. Utterly shameful and disgusting!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
4. News story here:
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:59 PM
Dec 2014

A Texas police officer was placed on administrative leave on Friday after he reportedly used a Taser on a 76-year-old man after the suspect had already been forced to the ground.

The Victoria Advocate reported that 76-year-old Pete Vasquez was driving a work-owned vehicle back to his place of business on Thursday when 23-year-old Officer Nathanial Robinson pulled him over for an expired inspection.

Vasquez said that he explained that the car belonged to a car lot, and that the dealer tags made it exempt from having an inspection.

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Vasquez was placed in the patrol car, and then transported to Citizens Medical Center for treatment, where he spent the next two hours in police custody. He was eventually released with out being charged or cited.


More: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/goddamned-nazi-stormtrooper-texas-cop-tasers-76-year-old-man-with-expired-inspection/

Thank God that man had some witnesses that cared enough to step in.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
6. In other words...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:17 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]The department will wait until public attention quiets down and people start to forget, feeling somewhat mollified. Then the cop will be returned from his paid vacation without penalty. BFD.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. How are parents suppose to explain this to their children?
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:13 PM
Dec 2014

"Hey, look Dad! I guess it's cool to bully and beat-up old people, just like that policeman did"

dickthegrouch

(3,175 posts)
8. Let's take you to the optician
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:07 PM
Dec 2014

You clearly saw something that wasn't happening!
That nasty old man clearly threatened that cop with logic and truth - what could be worse!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
10. the cop started the aggression
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:19 PM
Dec 2014

when he tried to rip the paperwork out of the old guy's hands. He could have asked for it. Instead he got aggressive and escalated the situation.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. cop are a;ways right folks
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:33 PM
Dec 2014

please defend this. thanks in advance for the pretzel logic you will display by claiming this is in any way defensible.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. Really? WTF?
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:37 PM
Dec 2014

Talk about turning a routine stop up to an 11.

That cop should be fired and charged with assault.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
15. What America is that cop from?
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:39 PM
Dec 2014

He is not from my America.

My 18 year old son wants to be a cop. How do I explain my present outrage with cops. My boy loved and idolized his grandfather. So that slime cop tases a 76 year old man over an INSPECTION sticker. Who the hell does he think he is and how did he get that way.

My boy is presently at a military college majoring in law enforcement. Thankfully he is very liberal.

WE must make this stop!

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
20. Cop training has dramatically changed.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 08:15 PM
Dec 2014

It seems to make far too many absolutely paranoid and dangerous menaces to society.

I'm specifically talking about how Blackwater aka XE aka ... has trained quite a number of police departments around the country. They have been militarized to a large extent, and it certainly seems like many cops have very little desire to "serve and protect" average citizens. They seem to see average citizens as threats first and foremost now.

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
21. Too many cops want to be dictators and be bowed down to.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 08:30 PM
Dec 2014

When someone questions their judgment and over the top attitude for something as harmless as a registration they lose their fucking minds. They are like little children who need to be put in the corner and given time out.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
22. This coward POS cop
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:56 PM
Dec 2014

is so very wrong in so many ways.........righteous outrage is all that is possible here. No excuses that the old gentleman was a threat, didn't respond properly to the 'authority of this thug and on and on. WORDS would have deescalated this situation. Man!!!!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
25. Chief of police apologizes after officer uses Taser on 76-year-old man
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:49 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.click2houston.com/news/chief-of-police-apologizes-after-officer-uses-taser-76yearold-man/30233296

VICTORIA, Texas -

At 76 years old, Pete Vasquez of Victoria stands just 5 feet 5 inches and weighs 145 pounds. Now, Vasquez, a father of five and grandfather to 20 children, is at the center of a police dash cam video that is causing outrage.

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But Urich said when Vasquez tried to explain to the officer that it was a dealer's car with special dealer's plates and did not require a current inspection sticker, the officer got angry, grabbed Vasquez by the arm and started to cuff him.

At that point, Urich said Vasquez pulled his arm back. That's when the 23-year-old officer tackled Vasquez, pushing him into the police car hood and then forcing him to the ground.

Vasquez said on his way down the officer used a Taser on his chest once and then ordered him to get up. When he didn't, the officer used the Taser on him again -- this time in the leg.



A 23 year old tasering a 76 year old? Over a friggen sticker? And the officer doesn't even understand the law? What have we become?
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
26. I wonder what we can do to help the elderly
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:41 AM
Dec 2014

Keep up with their bills and responsibilities. I see many who have a time keeping up not necessarily due to financial but just dates and things. We all can keep these situations to a minimum just by keeping an eye on our elderly neighbors and family members.

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