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The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists says Earth is now closer to human-caused doomsday than it has been in more than 30 years because of global warming and nuclear weaponry.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Which humans would that be, exactly? The ones that caused us to reach this stage, I mean? Because I never figured-out nor even wanted how to make a nuclear bomb or reactor, and I contribute very little to global warming directly since I'm not China who contributes 1/4 of worldwide co2 all by itself.
- I'm thinking that by calling it ''human-caused'' it simply deflects attention away from the real perpetrators......
I think most humans on this planet would do it differently than The Oligarchs......
jwirr
(39,215 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)a trinket rich culture.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)swilton
(5,069 posts)Historical emissions
Since carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere can stay there for centuries, historical emissions are just as important or even more important than current emissions. The tricky question of historical responsibility is one of the key tensions in the process of negotiating a global climate deal. The following figures from the World Resources Institute show the top 10 nations as measured by their cumulative emissions between 1850 and 2007. The US tops the list by a wide margin though Chinese emissions have risen significantly since these data were assembled.
1. US: 339,174 MT or 28.8%
2. China: 105,915 MT or 9.0%
3. Russia: 94,679 MT or 8.0%
4. Germany: 81,194.5 MT or 6.9%
5. UK: 68,763 MT or 5.8%
6. Japan: 45,629 MT or 3.87%
7. France: 32,667 MT or 2.77%
8. India: 28,824 MT or 2.44%
9. Canada: 25,716 MT or 2.2%
10. Ukraine: 25,431 MT or 2.2%
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/apr/21/countries-responsible-climate-change
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)see:
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/5664/20140116/seven-nations-contributed-60-percent-global-warming-study.htm
And the typical citizen in China is no more responsible than the typical citizen in the U.S.
At any rate, for the purposes of the article, it's human-casued versus naturally occurring.
Kablooie
(18,637 posts)There are many "Christians" that will be delighted to hear this.
Vic Tree
(90 posts)How would you calculate the threat of climate change in minutes?
Darb
(2,807 posts)Think famine, fresh water supply, rising seas displacing populations.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Nuclear weapons represent mass terrorism on an industrial scale.
ISIS is a blip.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)so that Jesus CAN return and they think this is good. I was raised to believe that bringing about the Apocalypse was God's job not mine. That I could not influence it one way or the other. Today you see them deliberately doing things to make this worse and they are totally wrong. What they are saying is that their god is so weak he cannot do his own job. And since the 1980s this form of Christianity has pushed this idea to its limit and pushed the mainstream religions to the back of the bus.
ProudProg2u
(133 posts)Someone suggests the problem is "TMP" Too many people. "Dirty nest syndrome". Some, Especially Repubs suggest would it start with you...? or your children..? Missing the point completely. Some would say it started with the rapid advancement of technology around 1900.Our consumer glorified world is unsustainable.I cry for my grandchildren.I envision a hellish future (If I believed in hell). The only thing that could possibly save the human race would be a hundred year period on no birth rate. That's 0 birth rate.The repubs love the over population (never saw a consumer they did not love) they can live in gated communities with paid for small armies to protect them...Well there I go again....Imagine the USA hundreds of years ago better yet thousands of years ago, a figgin paradise especially the coastal regions. Now that we have nuke plants dotting the entire world (Fukashima Japan) late in the day now I'm afraid to save the world.
Archae
(46,340 posts)It'll be between India and Pakistan.
Even North Korea isn't stupid enough to actually use big booms.
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)are only two of the multiple ways in which us human beings can take ourselves to doomsday. What about fracking??? Aren't they fracking in Wyoming, not far from the Yellowstone Caldera? And if the Yellowstone Caldera blows, then it's curtains for the whole US, and a volcanic winter, as volcanic ash clouds would engulf the entire atmosphere around the world. And what about MRSA and other multiple antibiotic resistant bacteria - or some mutant superweed, bacteria or virus unleashed from the lab by a genetic engineer who has gone off his rocker? Perhaps I've been watching too many low budget sci fi movies! But the threat that the delicate ecological balance of the earth's botanical or zoological life forms could be gravely upset by genetic engineering run amok is not too far fetched, IMHO.
packman
(16,296 posts)shebornik
(127 posts)is doing bad things. It's an old saying now but if you aren't working to solve the problem, then you are part of the problem.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)from worker rights to para military police force, eliminating constitutional protections against surveillance and seizure, and fast tracked legislation like TPP that creates corporate tribunals to settle disputes over environmental regulations.
Coupled with a media monopoly wholly owned by a corporate/government partnership, it has never been more difficult to challenge the "establishment".
The result is that any dissent labels you a disruptive traitor and attracts unwanted surveillance which can make its way to your employer, friends and family.
Even so-called Democrats here defend torture, spying and government deference to corporations like GE and Monsanto.
Either one political party or the other has to act without prejudice to the power and wealth of our oligarchy.
So far, neither has shown the courage to act. That's because our two political organizations put their own well-being ahead of everyone else.
As individuals there is only so much we can do. To make lasting progress, however, requires representation in Government.
We don't have that.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)wealth increases exponentially year over year, nothing will ever change.