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DhhD

(4,695 posts)
1. Media is banking on Americans equating socialism with communism. Even in the 60s we were
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 01:17 PM
Feb 2015

taught in school, that the socialism of Marx lead to the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution used to usher in Communism in Russia.

People will be very afraid to even listen to Sanders until the confusion is straightened up. And just like we heard in this video media report, the corporate owned media will sensor the clarity of this matter for a long as possible.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
2. Excellent point.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 02:14 PM
Feb 2015

Bernie could do that but I believe his thinking is to stay focused on the point of his message in the brief moments the corporate will offer him. That's sort of how I tend to read him, anyway.

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
6. Hillary supporters??
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 03:06 PM
Feb 2015

I cant't beleive she has any??

How could anybody vote for someone piss ignorant enough to believe
bush*?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. I love Bernie. Supporters must show up at these venues to build momentum. He's a realist...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 03:02 PM
Feb 2015

He doesn't waste his time trying to smear the Democratic candidates, he presents his vision. It is the vision of many of my generation, being dismantled by proxies of the Koch brothers with Libertarians taking over and the 'Left' standing aside, pointing fingers.

Attacking others does not get votes, Bernie knows that and realizes if he is elected, he will have to work with others.

And IF elected, which is a very large IF since those who didn't vote in 2010 or 2014, and claim they won't vote in 2016, aren't going to help him.

He asked for their help in 2014 to stop a landslide by Koch candidates and they didn't show up at the polls, so he's looking to see if they will vote now.

Sadly, I predict they won't help Bernie now no more than they did in 2014. They are immature, fickle and take their cues from Libertarian conspiracies, full of Bircher logic.

Most have gone to the Libertarian Party and will never back progressives like Bernie or anyone else again. Sanders is no fool, he's got a tough slog against apathy on the left and Koch dogmatism from the right.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
8. I did not hear him attack anyone except the
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 03:33 PM
Feb 2015

Koch Bro's and a warning that if Koch brothers are allowed to spread their billions within the political system there will be no longer a Democratic or Republican party but a corporate party.
Lets face it, we don't have a progressive party. The Democratic party of today is nothing more than a smoke screen for the Tea Bagger Republicans.When there is a political candidate that has all of their "front" money from Wall St. and Wall street subsidiaries than I would say it is a safe bet that candidate is far from being a progressive.
Bernie Sanders is a progressive. He could be the one leading the fight to save our Democracy whether he is a socialist Independent or A Progressive Socialist Democrat he is not getting his contributions from the 1% or Wall St. corporate mafia.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Where did I say he didn't go after the Koch brothers? They get his attacks, not the other parties.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:57 PM
Feb 2015

People don't vote for a negative or what is not there presented to rally them to vote. They vote for what is presented.

Those slogans are used by Libertarians. If Sanders or Warren end up endorsing a Democrat in 2016, the Libertarians still won't vote for them.

EOM.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
10. i just misread your post sorry. But I think we both agree that we need a
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:56 PM
Feb 2015

real progressive candidate.
Most people say a progressive cannot be elected but I disagree. I also disagree that a candidate must run from the middle.
What the hell is the middle.?When the wind blows from the east are they liberal progressives? Likewise when the wind is from the west are they right wingers?
I never understood that phrase.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
7. K&R
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 03:12 PM
Feb 2015

When I see clips of Bernie, I feel that we have in him a Fighting Gentleman. He rails passionately against everything that's wrong with the state of our country, but never, never gets down in the mud trashing individuals. He connects well with audiences...nothing slick or disingenuous about him. I hope some day to have an opportunity to hear him in person.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
11. Being social is not an attribute of American culture , Fascism disguised as Liberty , Freedom
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:01 PM
Feb 2015

and Democracy is . Bernie does not belong to the " I've got mine fuck you club " . They will
destroy him before he gets out of the gate .

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