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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:28 PM Mar 2015

Papantonio: Supplement Industry is Scamming You

The supplement industry operates with virtually no oversight and no regulations from the federal government. Because of this, they can make claims about miracle cures that go unchecked, and that consumers continue to fall for. But journalists have caught on to this scam.

America’s Lawyer, Mike Papantonio, and attorney Howard Nations discuss what’s happening.

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longship

(40,416 posts)
1. DSHEA must be repealed.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:45 PM
Mar 2015
DSHEA is the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994. (Thank you, Bill Clinton, for signing a bill into law that gives free rein for abject quackery in medicine.)

It is a horrible law.

BTW, big Pharma is the largest marketer of so-called supplements. The only differences between supplements and medicine are:

1. Medicine is tested for efficacy and safety; supplements are not.

2. Medicine can make claims of efficacy for diseases; supplements are limited to "structure/function" claims, whatever the fuck that means.

Of course, supplements are merely drugs, except without regulation and without testing for either efficacy or safety.

I prefer science-based medicine to abject quackery.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Huh? No more to say than No?
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

I read that as... La-La-La-La... with your fingers in your ears.

At least I posted a link to support my claims.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
5. I'm busy.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

This is a complex issue, and I don't have the time to write a long post or dig up articles from 1994.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
12. I hope you will take the time later, to do an OP on this issue.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:30 PM
Mar 2015

There are arguments in favor of some supplements, like D3 and fish oil.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
7. Pharmaceuticals are crap too. Too many toxic side effects. Drug companies hide bad research results
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

as a normal habit.

Whole organic herbs, taken whole, not from a bottle or jar with a label, from a reputable herbalist. Grow them yourself even. Whole, as ingest the herb whole dried or raw or as a tea or as a tincture.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Herbs are drugs.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:53 PM
Mar 2015

Unregulated. Untested for either efficacy or safety. Thanks to DSHEA (<== Please click through this time.)

Medicine is regulated and tested for both efficacy and safety. That is why the caveats are printed for all prescription drugs, something supplement manufacturers do not have to do -- you DO realize that they are the same companies people call Big Pharma.

There is no such thing as alternative medicine. There is only medicine. And it is based on science. DSHEA put power in quackery. And people actually believe the garbage they spew. It is all marketing and no science. What the fuck do claims like "supports the immune system" even mean? As far as I can tell, nothing whatsoever.

Take a trip to Science Based Medicine.


Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
9. So many pharmas have caused so much damage. They are loaded with toxic side effects. And
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:03 PM
Mar 2015

Big Pharma knows this. Safe, my ass. Tell The Pap pharmas are safe, he'll laugh you out of his office.

The ONLY reason we don't use herbs today as medicines is that Big Pharma can't figure out a way to patent a plant other than with chemical company's gmo garbage.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
6. I don't take any of that crap. I get whole organic herbs from my local reputable herb store, grind
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

them myself and put them in a shake. Screw the capsules even. I have been doing wholistic medicine to heal my many maladies over the years and taking bottles and bottles of herbs and supplements DOES NOT WORK. Only whole organic herbs taken whole work. Grow your own if you can.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
10. It's all about educating oneself and buying from reliable sources. You have to do your homework.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 09:46 PM
Mar 2015

I just bought some vitamin D from Wholefoods .. was surprised to see it had corn oil in it after I got home and read the ingredients. My fault for sure. But with pesticides and growing practices (for profit), not nutrition, has lead us to believe we need supplements in order to get the nutrition we're lacking in our foods. Buying organic, for some, might seem a reassuring way that we're getting our daily requirements, but organic is expensive, and even still, we have to question where exactly that food was grown and under what conditions.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
11. 2 doctors, over the last decade have recommended I take 3,000 i.u. of D3, along with 2-3,000 i.u....
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:29 PM
Mar 2015

......of fish oil. As Bananas said, this is a complex issue.

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