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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
2. Do you know how seriously I take conspiracy theories?
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 09:00 PM
Mar 2015

In spite of this gentleman's assertions to the contrary, this is a conspiracy theory.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
4. Hydrogen fusion on the Sun vs. Carbon Atmosphere and Hydrogen bond energies
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 09:51 PM
Mar 2015

with little wind on Earth. Other planets have high winds and dense atmospheres with carbon and charged ions. Humans are releasing lots of carbon into the air. There are Ozone holes. Earth is drying out. The temperature will not recede during this 70 years cycle, in my opinion.
National Geographic has a story about this sun cycle.

To me, this video was about fear and installing disbelief, instead of looking into the facts. It was a video for the unmotivated.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
6. refreshing somebody actually has a view point.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:35 PM
Mar 2015

Besides just the uninformed name callers.

I dont see the fear in the video. He is just connecting dots and pointing to scientific studies to back up his argument.

Global warming models have all been wrong. We are seeing more extreme temperature fluctuations since we have been keeping records. The scientific extremes on one side says ice age and on the other side says polar cap melt. We cant have both. But it seems that our climate is in a battle between hot and cold. And this battle is playing out in the global weather extremes.

Now I am of the opinion that the sun and the solar cycle has the biggest impact on our climate. Now indeed humans pollution of the atmosphere is having negative effects. But the solar shut down and the earths collapsing atmosphere are linked. And there is historical evidence of this link.

I have watched this narrators channel on youtube for over a year now. He has without a doubt in my mind shown how energy from the sun causes earthquakes. He has explained better than anyone i know how cmes from the sun build up our atmosphere. And how hurricanes and sun spots are connected. That hurricanes and other large low pressure systems could be called earth spots from an outside observer.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
12. In my opinion, when the video speaker uses THEIR charts graphs and theories to stimulate his
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 04:22 PM
Mar 2015

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conclusions, it scares people because he puts in no studies of the changing Sun as a star. What is lacking is the magnetic storm study that he seemingly has refused to provide. What is a sunspot? for instance, as a basic level rationale. After a rationale comes a mindset. A magnetic pulse coming close to the magnetic fields (very plural) along with charged particles at the poles changes Earth's atmosphere (the Earth is not a sphere of equal pressure but does have several phases of matter.) Don't forget the EB Condensate potential above the Earth and the hot thin fast moving gases of the Thermosphere. The crust and mantle are full of iron ions. The iron concentration gets greater the deeper but is not equal in its gradient upward.

The studies above fit Climate Change not the reason for the type of planet the Earth is. The Earth formed when the sun was much hotter. The Earth and the Sun have been slowing down over the past 10 billion years. Maybe the Sun is at its point of no return also. Did Anyone check its mean temperature to that of Earth's. Has anyone compared the Earth to other Xoplanets yet? No. To moons in our Solar System? Yes. To other Planets in our Solar System? Certainly.

The video above seems to make a prediction without backup. Studying the Earth with Climate data is all we have now. Methane release is a whole new ball game. There are some studies of the past when there was said that the Earth had an atmosphere of Carbon and Hydrogen. A mixture of methane, water and ammonia is liquid state even near 0 degrees K.

Looking forward to the new studies and findings on how the Sun effects the Earth's Climate change.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
5. *Constipation* would be the seventh problem.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:03 PM
Mar 2015

Typical climate denier stuff, although admittedly, I couldn't take more than ten minutes of that nonsense.

--imm

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
7. Hmmmm....
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:48 PM
Mar 2015

I really don't know what to make of this one. The way I understand it, the record snowfalls in Boston and cold winter weather can be explained two ways, which are both mutually compatible: 1) Increased heat or energy in the earth's atmosphere does not always manifest as increased temperature; sometimes it can also put increased energy into storm activity, leading to superstorms like Hurricane Sandy, as well as winter superstorms. 2) Increased fluctuations and meanderings of the jet stream increasingly allow cold blasts of polar air, called polar vortexes, to blast down into the lower latitudes, where they have not been seen before.

Another reflection I'd like to present here is the following: Who profits from global warming scares and hucksterism? Right wing climate deniers say that it's the New World Order, and that they are using fabricated fears of global warming to take away our freedoms and accept a global eco-tyranny. Or, alternatively, you could say that the global warming scare is being driven by those who are promoting alternative energy. But these alternative energy technologies have so many desirable things to offer us in terms of less pollution and a cleaner planet, so why would a big scare even be necessary to get people to accept them? Big oil and the fossil fuel companies are the richest corporations on the planet, and also the ones with the most capital and resources to invest in the new clean, green energy technologies, but they are resisting this, and funding climate change deniers because they are so blindly and terminally attached to the oil they control that they want to squeeze every last penny of profit from every last drop of oil that they can.

Anyone else have any other responses or takes on what I have presented here? Is the guy who made this video secretly being bankrolled by Big Oil?

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
8. I wouldnt say he is a climate change denier.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:18 PM
Mar 2015

I feel he is just trying to get people to see a bigger picture. The way we pollute our world is wrong. The narrator i know supports alternative energy. But the change we are seeing in our climate does have bigger connections then just our pollution. All the planets are changing and if anything the earth has changed the least. And it is connected to the sun and the solar cycle.

Without a doubt we need to cut our carbon foot print. We need to clean up our earth and end our pollution. But even if we do our climate is still going change.

I dont know the political motivation behind the global warming fear mongers. But when reputable scientist are mocked and threatened because they question the mainstream you know something bigger is going on. All aspects of climate need to be looked at especially the connection to the sun.

If the energy of companies of today were looking to the future they would be investing into the technology of the future and move away from fossil fuels. The internal combustion engine is crude by today's standards. Using coal for power should be antiquated out by now. But it is big money and unfortunately money runs it all.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
13. Big Oil will use every excuse and lame excuse, possible to keep from having to change their tooling.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 04:45 PM
Mar 2015

Now they want to make state laws that over ride cities from preventing extraction. They want to connect to city water and not pay for earthquake and health damage. They want to socialize the overhead and rake in the profits anywhere on this Earth.

Big Oil can use the excuse a 70 year cooling cycle to their evil advantage as so called fossil energy will be gone in 70 years. They do not care to take into account the Methane release. Did not see Methane data and plate tectonic in the video.

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