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zebonaut

(3,688 posts) Sun Mar 22, 2015, 11:21 PM Mar 2015

How to read a Global Warming Data Chart 101

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How to read a Global Warming Data Chart 101 (Original Post) zebonaut Mar 2015 OP

Is there any source for this video that doesn't call it a "crock" BlueStreak Mar 2015 #1

You mean besides the very first words in the screen: DRoseDARs Mar 2015 #2

That video requires a sign-in. My goal is to influence people, not to piss them off. BlueStreak Mar 2015 #4

Translation: Someone help me commit a crime. DRoseDARs Mar 2015 #6

Reaching people who think climate change is a hoax freedom fighter jh Mar 2015 #3

There are a great many people who are influenced by Faux, but not owned by them BlueStreak Mar 2015 #5

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)

1. Is there any source for this video that doesn't call it a "crock"

Reply to zebonaut (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 11:31 PM

Mar 2015

I mean, if we want to influence people, it isn't necessarily a great idea to start the conversation with an insult.

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)

2. You mean besides the very first words in the screen:

Reply to BlueStreak (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:15 AM

Mar 2015

"Uploaded with permission from Skepticalscience.com" ?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/16_more_years_of_global_warming.html

And for the love of fucking Christ, don't be one of those ninnies that wilts at the sight of, well, is "crock" even a naughty word? Who exactly is being "insulted" by calling a deliberate act of disinformation (the myth of "No Global warming in the past 16 years" cooked up by some pro-oil thinktank and you know it) a crock?

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)

4. That video requires a sign-in. My goal is to influence people, not to piss them off.

Reply to DRoseDARs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:00 AM

Mar 2015

You seem to have a different goal.

So let me ask the question more precisely. Does anybody know of a URL I can send to folks to display this content without beginning with an insult?

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)

6. Translation: Someone help me commit a crime.

Reply to BlueStreak (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:21 AM

Mar 2015

That website is the original source of the video you want. Poor baby you is offended by "crock" in the title, by someone else who got permission to repost the video. You want someone to help you commit a crime to avoid getting permission to repost and thereby violate that website's copyright on their content.

You can get off your moral high horse.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)

3. Reaching people who think climate change is a hoax

Reply to BlueStreak (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 08:56 AM

Mar 2015

is the greatest challenge in getting constructive action on climate change. And climate change is the greatest challenge of our time.

Agree: Starting the conversation by calling the other side's position a crock is not going to help.

Katharine Hayhoe, climate scientist and evangelical Christian, says that getting through to people on climate change depends on those people trusting your values. She can do it. We can learn from her. Sometimes I think the whole world's future rests in this woman's hands.

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)

5. There are a great many people who are influenced by Faux, but not owned by them

Reply to freedom fighter jh (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:04 AM

Mar 2015

We should not assume there are no minds that can be changed. I know there are many people who are talking the intellectually lazy route, saying "I don't need to change. Some people say this is a hoax. I'll just keep living my lifestyle for now."

Some of these people are approachable. I can think of 15 friends right off the bat that would at least listen to this argument, but not if the first thing they see is "it is a crock."

I can download the video and repost it to my own Youtube without those insults, but it seems like there ought to be a better way.

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