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(806 posts) Thu Mar 26, 2015, 06:28 PM Mar 2015

EPIC: Lobbyist Claims Pesticide Safe to Drink, Refuses to Drink Some When Offered

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EPIC: Lobbyist Claims Pesticide Safe to Drink, Refuses to Drink Some When Offered (Original Post) circlethesquare Mar 2015 OP

Glyphosphate is not a pesticide. It is an herbicide. MNBrewer Mar 2015 #1

Herbicides ARE pesticides. GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #4

That's not how it's used in agricultural vernacular MNBrewer Mar 2015 #6

Maybe it is not the way you use it but the rest of the world is clear on: herbicide is pesticide. GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #7

Nice selective use of definitions MNBrewer Mar 2015 #8

Posted in GD a little after 11am today. L0oniX Mar 2015 #2

Love that: 'Do you think I'm an idiot?' Keep digging, buddy. Joe Chi Minh Mar 2015 #3

Do you think WE are Idiots???? Jackass zebonaut Mar 2015 #5

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)

1. Glyphosphate is not a pesticide. It is an herbicide.

Reply to circlethesquare (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:20 PM

Mar 2015

Sorry Dave. You got it wrong.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)

4. Herbicides ARE pesticides.

Reply to MNBrewer (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:52 AM

Mar 2015

As anyone familiar with the most basic terms of agriculture would know: Pesticides include insecticides, fungicides, disinfectants and herbicides.

A pesticide is any substance used to kill, repel, or control certain forms of plant or animal life that are considered to be pests. Pesticides include herbicides for destroying weeds and other unwanted vegetation, insecticides for controlling a wide variety of insects, fungicides used to prevent the growth of molds and mildew, disinfectants for preventing the spread of bacteria, and compounds used to control mice and rats. Because of the widespread use of agricultural chemicals in food production, people are exposed to low levels of pesticide residues through their diets...

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/pesticides/

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)

6. That's not how it's used in agricultural vernacular

Reply to GreatGazoo (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:44 AM

Mar 2015

ALthough I do recognize that it is also used as a broader term to include other types of -cides.

The primary use of pesticide is that it is an agent to kill animal pests.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)

7. Maybe it is not the way you use it but the rest of the world is clear on: herbicide is pesticide.

Reply to MNBrewer (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:45 AM

Mar 2015

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/02/us-usa-study-pesticides-idUSBRE89100X20121002

And as used here -- the general: "pesticide" and the more specific "herbicide":

Both reports focus on “superweeds.” It turns out that spraying a pesticide repeatedly selects for weeds which also resist the chemical. Ever more resistant weeds are then bred, able to withstand increasing amounts – and often different forms – of herbicide.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bethhoffman/2013/07/02/gmo-crops-mean-more-herbicide-not-less/

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)

8. Nice selective use of definitions

Reply to GreatGazoo (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:26 PM

Mar 2015

It doesn't make you any more correct.

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

2. Posted in GD a little after 11am today.

Reply to circlethesquare (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:20 PM

Mar 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026417817

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)

3. Love that: 'Do you think I'm an idiot?' Keep digging, buddy.

Reply to circlethesquare (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 08:18 AM

Mar 2015

You're doing just great. There's a slot on UK TV tailor-made for you: Master Mind.

Reminds me of the hilariously wily lawyers' dictum: 'Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.' He must have been the only one who didn't!'

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)

5. Do you think WE are Idiots???? Jackass

Reply to circlethesquare (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:01 PM

Mar 2015

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