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EarlG

(21,960 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 11:49 AM Mar 2015

Pic Of The Moment: Gov Pence: Indiana's "Religious Freedom" Law Is Not About Discrimination," But...



Indiana Governor: New Law 'Not About Discrimination'

The Big Lie The Media Tells About Indiana's New 'Religious Freedom' Law



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Pic Of The Moment: Gov Pence: Indiana's "Religious Freedom" Law Is Not About Discrimination," But... (Original Post) EarlG Mar 2015 OP
Nice! marym625 Mar 2015 #1
What a slimy asshole. SoapBox Mar 2015 #2
Yeah, he reminds me a quite a bit of this slimy SNL character. Snarkoleptic Mar 2015 #13
Our local rag printed an editorial praising the new law. Chipper Chat Mar 2015 #3
Very good. I hope you told them why. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2015 #33
You bet I did. Chipper Chat Mar 2015 #34
Can I refuse service to gun owners because it is against my religious beliefs even if they world wide wally Mar 2015 #4
Good one! Aldo Leopold Mar 2015 #21
Don't be silly, of course you can't. Amimnoch Mar 2015 #35
I would love to ask Pence one simple question? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #5
Yes I will answer that question. Benghazi, or fear of Ebola, or both. Or neither. kairos12 Mar 2015 #6
I'd love for him to give ONE real-world example of how this law helps people stillwaiting Mar 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Mar 2015 #8
absolutely nothing marym625 Mar 2015 #15
They can do the part in their religion where their holy book says bigotry is next to godliness. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #27
What's next ..."No Sinners Allowed" signs in church? L0oniX Mar 2015 #9
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #10
A problem with this law is that it will permit the discrimination for any reason. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #11
No because religion is a protected class marym625 Mar 2015 #16
So if a Muslim came in to a store they could be refused service if the owner rhett o rick Mar 2015 #20
Oh, didn't realize you meant that marym625 Mar 2015 #23
and declare they are gay AlbertCat Mar 2015 #22
Yeah, that never happens marym625 Mar 2015 #24
The boy toy on the side is fine by these idiots. Amimnoch Mar 2015 #36
The legislature is already claiming the law needs to be "clarified." malthaussen Mar 2015 #12
This law needs to be chloroformed, put to sleep! Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #26
Hahahaha. What perfect caption. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #14
Why do the Republican Governors insist that they pass a radical, discrimination "religious freedom" rladdi Mar 2015 #17
In Arizona, one of the radical conservatives and most of the senate/house is made up of them, rladdi Mar 2015 #18
she just suggested it. Did not try to pass a bill. passiveporcupine Mar 2015 #32
Who needs common sense and decency.... Plucketeer Mar 2015 #19
freedom isn't free in fact it is the most expensive think their is captainarizona Mar 2015 #25
Why do conservative Christians subscribe to the religion of hate? Can a cc answer me honestly? Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #28
an honest answer captainarizona Mar 2015 #29
Welcome captainarizona. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #30
This fool believes that he has a god given right to be discriminatory, but people like him SummerSnow Mar 2015 #31

Snarkoleptic

(5,998 posts)
13. Yeah, he reminds me a quite a bit of this slimy SNL character.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:24 PM
Mar 2015

(poor quality video, but the audio does the job)

world wide wally

(21,751 posts)
4. Can I refuse service to gun owners because it is against my religious beliefs even if they
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:21 PM
Mar 2015

left their gun at home?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
35. Don't be silly, of course you can't.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:28 AM
Mar 2015

This law is only for those of Kristian faith to be able to discriminate. It don't apply to nobody else.

*not that I think the disclaimer is needed here, but this is sarcasm*

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. I would love to ask Pence one simple question?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:21 PM
Mar 2015

But since I am not rich, and not likely to contribute to him when he runs for President, it is not likely he would see me. But if I could ask, I would say:

Governor, can you, or any legislator who voted for this law, cite any specific situation where someone would have a religious reason to not serve someone that is so compelling that the State of Indiana felt a law had to be passed to deal with it?

As a follow up Governor, what specific problem does this law address?

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
7. I'd love for him to give ONE real-world example of how this law helps people
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:30 PM
Mar 2015

express their religious freedom.

What can they do NOW that they couldn't do before due to the passage of this law.

In effect, what has this law allowed to happen now in the name of "religious freedom" that wasn't allowed before.

Response to stillwaiting (Reply #7)

marym625

(17,997 posts)
15. absolutely nothing
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:54 PM
Mar 2015

Well, it would be harder to even file a lawsuit without it being thrown out immediately. But that's about the only difference

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. A problem with this law is that it will permit the discrimination for any reason.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

If you can point at a person and decide they are gay and refuse service, then you could point at anyone you did't like, maybe Jews, Muslims, over weight people, red heads, and declare they are gay and justify discrimination.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
16. No because religion is a protected class
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:55 PM
Mar 2015

The only group not protected both by the state and federal government is LGBT.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. So if a Muslim came in to a store they could be refused service if the owner
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:28 PM
Mar 2015

"thought" they were gay. He just might think that all Muslims are gay. The law allows the owner to pick and choose who he thinks is gay and therefore refuse service. Who is going to confront him/her? "Sorry, I thought you looked gay."

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. and declare they are gay
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:46 PM
Mar 2015

Well, they'll just have to prove they are hetero. Maybe by having coitus in the parking lot.

But then..... how do religious people know that the guy with the wife and 3 kids doesn't have a boy toy on the side? Or that he didn't have a "youthful indiscretion" with his football coach or something.

Ooooh yeah.... that never happens....

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
36. The boy toy on the side is fine by these idiots.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:33 AM
Mar 2015

They are fine with gays being relegated to cruising parks, or married men having a little on the side, or priests molesting children.. it's all good as long as it's kept in the Shadows.

What they can't stand is when gay couples actually want to dedicate their life to each other, build a family together, and build a home together... That does too much to destroy their preconceived notions and stereotypes of what gay is. The entire notion that GLBT's actually have the capability to fit into their weird notion of what "normal" is... that's what's unacceptable.

malthaussen

(17,215 posts)
12. The legislature is already claiming the law needs to be "clarified."
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:55 PM
Mar 2015

I guess laws are like computer games: instead of having it right on release, it needs to be patched even before it comes out.

It's not like you didn't have plenty of time to work on it, fools.

-- Mal

rladdi

(581 posts)
17. Why do the Republican Governors insist that they pass a radical, discrimination "religious freedom"
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:13 PM
Mar 2015

bill? Why do they actually need one? Is it nothing other than to discriminate against a minority? And none of the Governors can give a honest answer for the reason they signed the bill. It just another one of the hundreds of suppression bills the Republican governors have passed, Why don't all the Democratic governors have this bill if it is so important for religious freedom. I thought our Constitution protected religious freedom. All the churches and conservatives act like they are real free. Some even murder when it comes to abortions. Christians killing innocent because of there strong abortion dislikes. Trying to force their religious rights on to the nation.
Are we not free to decide if we want to join the killer Christians?

rladdi

(581 posts)
18. In Arizona, one of the radical conservatives and most of the senate/house is made up of them,
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:17 PM
Mar 2015

tried passing a law making going to church each Sunday mandatory. The radical female conservative did this during a hearing about making guns more open. The NRA and radicals in AZ wants everyone to open carry guns anywhere they want. They have passed bill overriding communities/city laws about guns.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
32. she just suggested it. Did not try to pass a bill.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 08:51 PM
Mar 2015

but the idea was there. And Seventh Day Adventists would love that. NOT!

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
25. freedom isn't free in fact it is the most expensive think their is
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:24 PM
Mar 2015

Does this law mean I can throw pence or any other evil republican out of my taxicab because their evilness offends my religious beliefs?

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
29. an honest answer
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:39 PM
Mar 2015

christain fundimental fascism is a form of fascism not a form of christianty. Just as the nazi's took on the trappings of the old norse gods.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
30. Welcome captainarizona.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:21 PM
Mar 2015

You certainly don't sound like a cc (conservative christian), but yes your answer sounds pretty close to what it is.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
31. This fool believes that he has a god given right to be discriminatory, but people like him
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:42 PM
Mar 2015

don't think they are discriminating cause they think it is Christian to feel like this. And they call Obama a Nazi?

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