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WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:51 AM Apr 2015

TYT: Barbara Walters Really Wants Monica Lewinsky



"Could Monica Lewinsky join ABC’s The View?

There’s some degree of interest there. Lewinsky has been invited to be a guest on an upcoming episode to promote her anti-bullying campaign. Beyond that, a person close to the ABC daytime chat show says the production would “love” to have the former White House intern as a guest co-host. Such gigs can often serve as tryouts for more permanent positions on the series.

The View has been wounded in the last year by cast shake-ups, slipping ratings, and reports of backstage fighting. With the recent departure of Rosie O’Donnell, The View currently only has three co-hosts—actress Rosie Perez, analyst Nicolle Wallace, and comic actress Whoopi Goldberg. That leaves two seats vacant. Meanwhile, Lewinsky has re-emerged into the public eye over the last year by embracing an anti-cyber-bullying message, including penning a Vanity Fair essay about her affiar with Bill Clinton and giving a TED Talk.

But as Deadline pointed out, since The View is produced by ABC News, having Lewinsky as a permanent part of the show could make it tougher for the news division to get access to presumed Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton."

Read more here: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/01/the-view-monica-lewinsky

Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) and Ana Kasparian (http://www.twitter.com/AnaKasparian) break it down on The Young Turks.
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TYT: Barbara Walters Really Wants Monica Lewinsky (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2015 OP
Please Go Away Monica Lewinsky! onecent Apr 2015 #1
Two people had an affair. One of them has survived and prospered. Why should the other sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #4
That affair was in the total control of Bill Clinton. CTyankee Apr 2015 #6
I completely agree. That is why I don't understand the latest attacks here on Lewinsky sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #8
I have to admit I had sympathy for him at the time but not now... CTyankee Apr 2015 #9
I defended him vehemently at the time. The Republican attacks were so vile sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #21
But he had all the power and she did not... CTyankee Apr 2015 #23
True. Nevertheless when it comes to Barbara Walters' motivation should she JDPriestly Apr 2015 #13
I agree that Walters' motivations are most likely political, never could stand her. However sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #22
If Lewinsky had never had a sexual relationship with Clinton, would Barbara Walters hire her JDPriestly Apr 2015 #24
Yup. n/t progressoid Apr 2015 #7
Very true. But the only reason that Lewinsky's name is known is that she JDPriestly Apr 2015 #12
Reall sorry that my opinion differs from yours!!!!! onecent Apr 2015 #19
Barbara Walters wants Monica Lewinsky in order to embarrass the Clintons. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #2
I see no reason to believe that Walters wants to embarrass the Clintons... CTyankee Apr 2015 #5
Why do you think Walters wants Monica Lewinsky on her show? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #11
Hey, great point...hadn't thought of that...but I still don't think it is just hate CTyankee Apr 2015 #14
Bill Clinton was responsible. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #15
No, Lewinsky was playing with fire. If she didn't know this, Bill did. He had CTyankee Apr 2015 #16
Insulting Monica? What a Low Blow zebonaut Apr 2015 #3
Barbara would drop Monica immediately if Hillary chose not to run for President. jalan48 Apr 2015 #10
Maybe Zoftig1 Apr 2015 #17
I don't think Kim K is a cheap slut. WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2015 #18
From looking at ALL of our republican "cheaters and liars as well as democrats, onecent Apr 2015 #20

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Two people had an affair. One of them has survived and prospered. Why should the other
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:14 PM
Apr 2015

one just 'go away'?? Doesn't she have a right to earn a living also?

I am sick to death of the hypocrisy we so criticized in Republicans with issues like this.

Lewinsky took the brunt of the back lash for that affair.

Typical, women tend to always get the blame.

Yes, she was responsible for having an affair with a married man.

But the married man has even more responsibility, to his family, especially his wife.

However, thankfully, none of this is against the law.

And both are free to go on with lives, as does at least half the population who apparently cheat on their spouses.

To tell a woman to 'just go away' so we can protect the man, doesn't sound very progressive to me.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
6. That affair was in the total control of Bill Clinton.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:33 PM
Apr 2015

He could have just sent Monica away. It was incredibly irresponsible of him to do what he did. He could easily have said "No" gently but firmly and then told his aides not to let her see him in private again. He was the most powerful man in the world and he chose to do something like THIS? Sure, she was wrong to even suggest what she did, but he had total control over the situation. And the whole country suffered through that whole impeachment crisis as a result, not to mention humiliating his wife and daughter in the process.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. I completely agree. That is why I don't understand the latest attacks here on Lewinsky
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:03 PM
Apr 2015

as if she were totally responsible for all of it, and should go hide in a closet, while Clinton looks forward to returning to the WH. I don't get that kind of hypocrisy frankly.

At the time, I did not believe the initial reports. I thought the Right was just trying to smear him.

But people I worked for at the time who are close to the Clintons, told 'it's true'. I was shocked, that anyone could be so incredibly SMART and so stupid at the same time.

I blamed Monica for her part, but as you pointed out, it was all in his hands. He could have stopped it so easily.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. I have to admit I had sympathy for him at the time but not now...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:07 PM
Apr 2015

He exposed us to the most vile attack on our democracy we would experience. His irresponsibility put our whole country at risk. It was total insanity.

I get totally out of patience when some people say "it wasn't so bad..." Yes it was! While I give Clinton credit for some of what he did during his two terms, this was a total disaster...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. I defended him vehemently at the time. The Republican attacks were so vile
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:36 AM
Apr 2015

and out of control, that he benefited from it in the end.

But it takes two to tango and to blame Monica Lewinsky for everything is simply wrong imo.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. But he had all the power and she did not...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:54 PM
Apr 2015

I'm not moralistic when it comes to mutually agreed upon sex, but as I recall there was way too much slut shaming of Monica and endless harangues about how Hillary was "enabling" Bill. But he knew how vile those Republicans were and went right ahead with his liaison and then the cover up and "denials."

It is infuriating because whenever Republicans have such flagrant affairs, they all "get religion" and that makes it all OK. Bunch of hypocrites!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. True. Nevertheless when it comes to Barbara Walters' motivation should she
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:41 PM
Apr 2015

hire Lewinsky, I can't think of anything other than to embarrass the Clintons. Maybe they deserve the embarrassment, but Lewinsky on that show would distract from the important issues in 2016. Maybe Barbara Walters doesn't want Hillary to run. That's fine with me. But the fact is that it wasn't Hillary who had an affair with Lewinsky. I'm commenting on Walters' motivation, not Hillary's qualifications.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. I agree that Walters' motivations are most likely political, never could stand her. However
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:46 AM
Apr 2015

Monica Lewinsky has been pretty quiet for a long time, her life was defined by that affair and everything that resulted from it. Any plans she had as a young woman, were ruined by the world wide attention, mostly negative, she was subjected to.

Clinton, otoh, survived and the affair hasn't hampered him in pursuing his goals.

If he had said 'no' to her back then, we probably never would have heard of her.

If she is being offered a way to change the public impression of her now, I don't see why she should be expected to remain in the shadows, feeling shame forever.

I doubt the Clintons have done much to try to help her.

She fell in love, thought he was in love with her. He otoh, was just using her. It's an old story and I give her some credit for not using it to her advantage for all these years.

She is under no obligation to stay hidden away for the rest of her life.

Clinton should have thought of all of these things before he made the decision he made. It could have been a lot worse had Monica been someone like Paula Jones, eg.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. If Lewinsky had never had a sexual relationship with Clinton, would Barbara Walters hire her
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:14 PM
Apr 2015

for The View or be interested in hiring her for The View?

So isn't Lewinsky getting an opportunity to appear on The View because of her relationship with Clinton? Might some other young woman who had not had a sexual relationship with a president but rather had a lot of self-control and better judgment be losing an opportunity to appear on The View precisely because she did not make the mistake that Monica Lewinsky made?

In other words, Monica Lewinsky's life has been pretty unremarkable and boring but for her affair with Clinton. So it seems to me that to reward her with a television job that she gets because of her notorious past is to provide an incentive for others to climb the ladder to fame through her method rather than through the use of good judgment, a life that is responsible for and to others and self-control and thoughtfulness toward others.

Personally, I think the hiring of Monica Lewinsky for a show like The View kind of sums up what I object to about TV. Products are sold by titillating people and glorifying behavior that hurts others.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Very true. But the only reason that Lewinsky's name is known is that she
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:37 PM
Apr 2015

had the affair with Clinton. It is true that the woman usually gets the bad end of such "scandals," but it does not, in my opinion, change the fact that the only name recognition and fame and therefore the only advantage for the View in hiring Lewinsky is her affair with Clinton.

Lewinsky would draw viewers mostly out of curiosity seems to me.

That is why I think that Barbara Walters might want to hire Lewinsky in order to embarrass Clinton.

The first thought that comes to our minds when we hear the name Lewinsky, Monica Lewinsky, is the affair with Clinton and Clinton's cowardly behavior in refusing to admit to it.

Lewinsky may be a very nice person, but there are other better known people who might be picked for The View and for better reasons. Lots of other women. One thing would be interesting about Lewinsky and that would be her opinions on the problems of women who are harassed or taken advantage of in the workplace. I seriously doubt that Barbara Walters would pick her to discuss or highlight that topic. It is possible, but I doubt it. And if Walters did it for that reason, there are so many extremely articulate women who know even more about the problems women, especially attractive women, meet in the workplace, and I ask why not hire one of them? Lewinskiy might make a guest on a couple of shows, but more?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Barbara Walters wants Monica Lewinsky in order to embarrass the Clintons.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 01:44 PM
Apr 2015

In addition, maybe because Barbara Walters had an affair with I believe it was a senator from Massachusetts and did not marry him, she identifies with Monica Lewinsky and wants to help Monica Lewinsky.

I see a motive to try to embarrass the Clintons in this. It's just my opinion, but that is what I see.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. I see no reason to believe that Walters wants to embarrass the Clintons...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:26 PM
Apr 2015

and I don't particularly hate Monica Lewinsky.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. Why do you think Walters wants Monica Lewinsky on her show?
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:30 PM
Apr 2015

That's the only reason I can think of. Lewinsky reminds people of Clinton's poor judgment and womanizing.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Hey, great point...hadn't thought of that...but I still don't think it is just hate
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:41 PM
Apr 2015

against Clinton. It's putting blame where blame should be...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Bill Clinton was responsible.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:50 PM
Apr 2015

And you know I am not a Hillary fan. But it seems unfair to me to draw attention to Bill's conduct when Hillary is the candidate. Hillary is not responsible for Monica Lewinsky.

To the extent that Lewinsky was responsible for her affair with Clinton (and she did have some choice in the matter; she may have been overwhelmed by Clinton's power and fame, but she was not coerced), Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with it -- as far as we know. So it seems unfair to Hillary to bring Lewinsky into the spotlight, into a position for which someone else might be better qualified, at this time. Looks very political and cheap to me. I could be totally wrong. Maybe Monica Lewinsky is very knowledgeable and very witty and will attract all kinds of young viewers, but somehow, I think she would have already had a chance somewhere is she had that much talent and that much to say.

Just my opinion.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. No, Lewinsky was playing with fire. If she didn't know this, Bill did. He had
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:59 PM
Apr 2015

an obligation to the people of the country not to do this and he FAILED. That was wrong.

I don't much care about Lewinsky. What she did, she did. It wasn't good and it wasn't nice but she did it anyway. I think she was so immature that she fashioned herself some kind of "power behind the throne" or maybe the "king's favorite consort" or something....who cares...

Zoftig1

(44 posts)
17. Maybe
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:15 PM
Apr 2015

Perhaps Monica is jealous of Kardashian capitalization on American sexual voyeurism. One is making millions for her reputation as a cheap slut, the other is still the butt of jokes.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
20. From looking at ALL of our republican "cheaters and liars as well as democrats,
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 08:55 AM
Apr 2015

I'd say the ONLY thing Clinton did "was get caught".

And, please IF you don't agree with my it doesn't MATTER AT ALL.

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