I cannot speak honestly about how angry I am about how our working class and factories were sold out.

Our middle class and the environment are still paying the price.

It was a HUGE shift that helped kill pensions and benefits for US.

Dammit.

Whole cities and towns have died out since then.

It's easy to blame some foreign trade agreement for the failure of towns, communities, industries.
Some other reasons include;

She is trying to sound like Bernie & Elizabeth, but failing

It had support from both parties, I was really naive and trusted politicians to protect things like wages and social security and jobs.

I was way off.

In reality, less than half of our Democratic legislators back workers, unions, benefits, and a sustainable domestic economy.

The rest are in bed with businesses and short-term economic goals.

Dammit.

Yes they give us some crumbs as liberals on social issues, but face it, they are Repub-lites.

the wife of the President who sold out our manufacturing base and the jobs that went with it and the brother of the President who lied us into attacking Iraq..

They said was a nut, well he wasn't such a nut after all now was he.

country called him Crazy, Weird, Funny, Out of his Mind, Greedy etc...shot his credibility down..in total Disbelief.

It most often times turns out that way....a minority of "realists" points out the dangers in an issue and the country turns on them and the media totally discredits them..as they are trying to do to Sanders and Warren.

Will "we" ever learn?

The media made him crazy, just like they made Howard Dean look crazy, and how they will make anyone who does not go along look crazy.

But just maybe we have had enough this time and not listen to them anymore.

how much I hope you're correct!
It (we) looks more promising than it has in decades....I think.

..but Bill was smoooooth.

Ross even correctly predicted the return of jobs to the USA....
AFTER wages and benefits had been lowered to 3rd World.

And they did even way back then, although maybe not to the extent that they do today. The Corporations were behind NAFTA, so they really had a motive to make a truth sayer like Perot out to be crazy. Looking back on it, what he was saying was just one hundred percent clear, solid common sense, spoken by a shrewd and seasoned businessman, and everyone else was crazy. Think it through - do the math, and see where the gradients of profit and self interest flow, and you MUST come to the same inevitable conclusion that Perot did. But we were too busy admiring the emperor's new clothes to take him seriously. It seems so clear and obvious to us now, but hindsight is 20 / 20.

It is scary how easily they can trash candidates.

And now we have the Koch Brothers pledging one billion dollars to get their kind of candidate into power.

And then he was absolutely right.

right up until I entered the voting booth and decided to go with Clinton because I was worried about a "nader" event and was not willing to see bush get another term.

I was totally put off by Bill Clinton, I have an eye for certain personalities.

Perot spoke to me like an adult and using charts like we really wanted me to understand what he was trying to tell us.

I miss that about him.

Selecting Stockwell as a running mate might have been his undoing, but I was really psyched about the idea of having a viable third party.

I think it's BULLSHIT to use Nader as an verb in any reason why.

Later… Perot went silent. We don't know why.

It was the darling of DU, that liberal icon -- Al Gore.

So, Gore sold us out? This was Gore's on and only active of conservatism?

SERIOUSLY!!!!!????!!!!

Ross Perot, a 0.01%er, was taking the liberal stand against his best interests?

BULLSHIT

Tell me how Perot is part of the 0.01% again?

Or, do you just want others to justify your posts?

Do you think "I never heard that" is justification for ignorance?

Here's a love note from your friend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ross+perot&oq=ross+perot&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l5.1695j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=we%20are%20the%2099%25

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nafta%20debate%20gore%20perot

now there is somebody the "haters" can be get behind!

Maybe that isn't the right metaphor, but it seems to me that if there were a coalition that included Perot, Warren, Nader, Ron Paul and some other notables from all across the political spectrum, that might carry some weight. At a certain point this would achieve critical mass and people like O'Reilly and that ilk would be scrambling to get aboard. If there were a critical mass, they group might be able to force this out into the open, maybe even force a national debate about it.

Like so many other Dems at the time I thought Perot was crazy as a loon. HOW COULD Dems support something that was anti-union, anti-working class? Not possible (I thought). At least I wasn't the only one fooled.

Perot was 100% right about NAFTA.

When below borders wages come up to 6 and hour, and ours go down to 6, then you've leveled the playing field but you've wrecked the country.

Indeed, Mr. Perot.

he was very accurate in his assessment of NAFTA.

As a member of the .1 %, he could have well gotten in on the NAFTA scam and laughed all the way to the bank. But he didn't, and took a stand for the economic well being of ALL Americans - especially the middle and working class that forms the backbone of our nation. He was truly looking out for the best interests of all of us, against the multinational corporations who just want to maximize their own profits, and the country be damned - what kind of patriotism is that? Those words of his, "but if you're just interested in making money..." ring so true and prophetic. He saw right through the "free trade" scammers, and called their bluff - but no one took him seriously. What we should be promoting is FAIR trade, not "free" trade. And that means trade with reciprocity and common sense protections and safeguards for the national economic interest.

By the way, my memory is kind of fuzzy as to exactly how the mainstream corporate media reacted to Ross Perot. What were the specific points and arguments used to discredit him?

But he still won 18.8% of the vote that year.

K & R

that in hindsight he sounds like the liberal in the debate.
I just wish he had been fully committed to winning. I was following the America's Cup at the time (before I knew what pyschopaths the Koch family was) and was amazed that Bill Koch was more committed, and put more dedication, money, heart and soul into winning the cup than Perot did to win the presidency.
Not saying he was the right choice, I don't remember the campaign that well, but the difference in the two efforts was very interesting.

Yet not enough recognize it all? Almost makes one want to weep tears of "shame"