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Mika

(17,751 posts) Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:13 PM Apr 2015

Councilman Carl Stokes EXPLODES On CNN 'Just Call Them Ni**ers' When Protesters Are Called Thugs.

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Councilman Carl Stokes EXPLODES On CNN 'Just Call Them Ni**ers' When Protesters Are Called Thugs. (Original Post) Mika Apr 2015 OP

CNN Memo to All On-Air Staff: "Push race wars, create labels and play up any black violence" - Jeff Zucker Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #1

President Obama called them "criminals and thugs." Mayor Rawlings-Blake also called them thugs. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #2

The "Bill Cosby excuse" doesn't fly, sorry Scootaloo Apr 2015 #3

It was a response to Obama and Rawlings bananas Apr 2015 #4

Just because Obama said it, it doesn't make it okay.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #11

I agree. nt bananas Apr 2015 #12

Black People "Loot" Food … White People "Find" Food. bananas Apr 2015 #5

Cool! I actually created that picture in MS Paint, and somehow it gets spread around over the years. arcane1 Apr 2015 #7

Cool is right! sammythecat Apr 2015 #13

Has Obama calked the police "thugs and criminals" yet? Because they are. bananas Apr 2015 #6

Call them "rioters".... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #8

How about we call people and offer them jobs? That would actually help. jtuck004 Apr 2015 #9

The RW is doing the usual... IkeRepublican Apr 2015 #10

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

1. CNN Memo to All On-Air Staff: "Push race wars, create labels and play up any black violence" - Jeff Zucker

Reply to Mika (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:16 PM

Apr 2015

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)

2. President Obama called them "criminals and thugs." Mayor Rawlings-Blake also called them thugs.

Reply to Mika (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:24 PM

Apr 2015

So perhaps Congressman Stokes needs to take this up with the president and the mayor.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baltimore-riots-president-obama-calls-rioters-criminals-and-thugs-10210955.html

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

3. The "Bill Cosby excuse" doesn't fly, sorry

Reply to totodeinhere (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:33 PM

Apr 2015

bananas

(27,509 posts)

4. It was a response to Obama and Rawlings

Reply to totodeinhere (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:56 PM

Apr 2015

I saw it live, it's clipped off from that youtube clip, she specifically referred to Obama and Rawlings.

Transcript here:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2015/04/28/cnns-burnett-isnt-thug-right-word-describe-rioters

ERIN BURNETT: Councilman, you know, it's interesting because the mayor of Baltimore, who has come under a lot of criticism, scathing criticism for her handling of this, referred to the people who were doing this last night as thugs, and she got a lot of criticism for that. There were people I saw on Twitter saying why would you call them thugs? Then they're not going to listen to you. President Obama also called the protesters in his words today quote/unquote criminals and thugs. He also carefully chose to use that word. Isn't it the right word?

CARL STOKES, Baltimore City Councilman: No, of course it's not the right word to call our children thugs. These are children who have been set aside, marginalized, who have not been engaged by us. No, we don't have to call them thugs.

BURNETT: But how does that justify what they did? I mean, that's a sense of right from wrong. They know it's wrong to steal and burn down a CVS and an old person's home. Come on.

STOKES: Come on? So calling them thugs-- just call them n****ers. Just call them n****ers. No! We don't have to call them by names such as that. We don't have to do that. That is exactly what we have set them to. No, when you say come on, come on what? You wouldn't call your child a thug if they should do something that would not be what you would expect them to do.

BURNETT: Look, I respect your point of view. I would hope that I would call my son a thug if he ever did such a thing.

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

11. Just because Obama said it, it doesn't make it okay....

Reply to bananas (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:15 AM

Apr 2015

In fact, he should be clued in that "thug" is code.

bananas

(27,509 posts)

12. I agree. nt

Reply to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:17 AM

Apr 2015

bananas

(27,509 posts)

5. Black People "Loot" Food … White People "Find" Food.

Reply to totodeinhere (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:02 PM

Apr 2015

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/black-people-loot-food-wh_b_6614.html

Black People "Loot" Food … White People "Find" Food.

Van Jones, 09/01/2005

arcane1

(38,613 posts)

7. Cool! I actually created that picture in MS Paint, and somehow it gets spread around over the years.

Reply to bananas (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:27 PM

Apr 2015

It always tickles me to see it appear, but I also cringe at how poorly I did the circling of the words

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)

13. Cool is right!

Reply to arcane1 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:02 AM

Apr 2015

Kudos to you. That's excellent!

I have a folder with about 20 or so political graphics that I've saved and that's one of them. Those two photos along with the actual news captions make Van Jones' claim of racist hypocrisy undeniable. I mean, there it is, and that is exactly what happens all the time and it's disgusting. I'm sure that's the typical viewpoint of all people that watch Fox for sure, and probably most of the rest of the population as well. I wish they could all see your graphic.

bananas

(27,509 posts)

6. Has Obama calked the police "thugs and criminals" yet? Because they are.

Reply to totodeinhere (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:06 PM

Apr 2015

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

8. Call them "rioters"....

Reply to Mika (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 09:30 PM

Apr 2015

Or howzabout "hooligans"? (Or is that too "British"?)

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

9. How about we call people and offer them jobs? That would actually help.

Reply to Mika (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:03 PM

Apr 2015

Last edited Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:19 AM - Edit history (1)

Couple trillion bucks of the same magic money we pay out to bank$ter/donors today, instead use it to help people find opportunity and meaning. Kinda like FDR did, but knowing we need much more.

on edit: and, btw, I very much like Mr. Stokes answer. Maybe every time we hear the word thug we insist that it be replaced with what they really mean.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)

10. The RW is doing the usual...

Reply to Mika (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:09 PM

Apr 2015

The President says something, whether he hits the nail in the head or deliberately dodges it to not politically alienate, the RW is right there to turn it into fodder and cue the media to get worked up into a lather.

Call me a dick overly-sensitives, but the President is right - criminals and thugs and should be treated as such. Probably has a few paid provocateurs in the mix just like with an old school strike or protest in front of a governor's HQ. The American audience is too distracted with immediate knee-jerk now to understand demonstrations have always had troublemakers.

In the FDR days, most Americans knew how that all worked.

Today? Unlikely - too busy jerking off with smartphones and chosen fact-smack junkie fixes to know otherwise.

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