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Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:57 AM Jul 2015

Watch: Descendant of Confederates On Why There’s ‘No Honor’ In Their Flag


This guy is so eloquent! Love all his ideas about taking down many of the monuments that are there now and putting up monuments for people executed for hiding blacks during the civil war and blacks who fought against the tyranny of the wealthy slave holders.


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Watch: Descendant of Confederates On Why There’s ‘No Honor’ In Their Flag (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jul 2015 OP
Well said, sir. 3catwoman3 Jul 2015 #1
As a descendant of a slave owner who did not seceede this focuses well on the crime. gordianot Jul 2015 #2
That was amazing! nt Freelancer Jul 2015 #3
Who is this gentleman? hopeforchange2008 Jul 2015 #4
I was trying to find out who he is too because he speaks in a way that is moving Quixote1818 Jul 2015 #11
Wow, that is one incredibly lovely man! Peace Patriot Jul 2015 #5
Maybe there is hope for this country after all moonbeam23 Jul 2015 #6
K&R SamKnause Jul 2015 #7
!! Jack Rabbit Jul 2015 #8
The world is changing lastone Jul 2015 #9
Wow Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2015 #10

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
2. As a descendant of a slave owner who did not seceede this focuses well on the crime.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jul 2015

The Civil War (not War between the States, War of Secession, War of Northern Aggression) was about slavery. 150 years later I still feel the pain from the crime of my ancestors. Bill Starr is an honorable man.

 

hopeforchange2008

(610 posts)
4. Who is this gentleman?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:13 AM
Jul 2015

He is so thoughtful and eloquent. He deserves a wide audience. Glad to see him here on DU.

Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
11. I was trying to find out who he is too because he speaks in a way that is moving
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jul 2015

informed, eloquent and speaks straight to the heart. People like this can change minds and really educate. This fellow really needs to be elevated to have a national audience.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
5. Wow, that is one incredibly lovely man!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jul 2015

Imagine monuments to the black men and women whose horrible enslavement created vast wealth for others, to black people who fought for freedom, to the white man who was executed for trying to help a fleeing slave, to the black teachers who brought education to South Carolina!

This man, Bill Starr, creates that imagination: It can and should all be different! There is no need to cling to this crime and sin, to bolster your ego, if you are a poor white. The evils of that are apparent in this recent racist horror in the church. It can and should all be transformed--reversed, with the blacks and their friends as the heroes, and the war monuments to THEM, and the streets named after THEM, and a new Flag of the South that includes them and honors THEM. There is great nobility--true nobility-- in that imagined transformation. And this man has it! (He didn't mention the flag, but I was thinking of how to re-design it.)

I was thinking brilliant, amazing, genius, even saint--but I'll settle for lovely. This is a lovely man.

There was another man, a black man, editor of a newspaper in South Carolina, whom I heard on the radio (and didn't catch his name or the name of the newspaper), about a day or so after the church horror, who said that he was concerned about the poor white young men who feel no hope in our cruel economy, and who turn to guns and violence out of hopelessness. I was very startled by this comment from a black man, who had every right to be deeply angry yet came out with this thoughtful, compassionate statement. This, too, seemed transformative. And I thought the same thing: Lovely man!

Two lovely, big-hearted, brilliant men, who can help us all to a transformed future.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
9. The world is changing
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

and it's the free exchange of information that is making that happen, no longer do young people simply believe what they hear - they "google it" to fact check and find out the real information. the walls of bigotry are slowly coming down as our youth realize that there is no difference of character coupled to race. Mr Starr has stated the obvious, yet the obvious has been buried by the people who cling to exclusivity out of fear of loss, the loss of their privileged class. The people who have benefited from slavery continue to do so when all the symbols of one of the greatest crimes in history remain as "heritage", incredible really. Imagine a section of germany that still allowed the nazi flag to fly, same thing.

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