they could fuck the whole thing up next year.

And if they do, they'll never have to take the blame.

and how it should be implemented?

How can anyone think that "the party platform" is fixed in stone and neither Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or any other Democratic party candidate, can change or alter it in any way? So this primary campaign is all a charade?

He sounds just like he did when Bush took us into Iraq, Matthews was a huge Bush cheerleader at the time but later hoped we would forget and he pretended to be a liberal for a while. Now it looks like he is tired of wearing the mask and he is going right back to how he was in his Bush cheerleading days.

The way he fumes about socialism reminds me of Bill O'Reilly.

Thank you.

Matthews is pushing the MSNBC narrative (now indistinguishable from the far right narrative) that there is no difference between the Bernie Sander's Democratic Socialism and Soviet Union Communism. In this regard Matthews is just like Bill O'Reilly and Fox "News".

This is why I never watch Tweety.

Every MSNBC program this evening is slighting Bernie Sanders in an underhanded unfair way.

I repeat, MSNBC does not deserve us.

Boycott MSNBC.

If MSNBC hopes to get any more minutes of viewing from me, they better bring back Olbermann and expand his show and Maddow's to 90 minutes each....otherwise, that whole network can go down in flames and I won't bat an eyelash.

Nearly any TV coverage of ANYTHING is damn near insufferable now.

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that's not journalism it's ambushing, badgering & being an ass.

I actually loved DWS's eye-rolls, was a perfect response. I'm
not a big fan of her's but I thought she stood her ground ok,
and was not taking the bait to trash Dem's 2nd running candidate
in the Primary.

But, still.

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Are you sure this is on a loop or is it just Matthews running out of jabs?

I'm no fan of the current dem machine. Won't contribute to it but will to candidates that actually perform, not just talk.

It's DemocratIC you stooge.

They found the proper use of "democratic" tested positive to focus groups and "democrat" with an emphasis on the "rat" tested negative.

I'm sure they get an extra thrill to hear someone from the Democratic Party adopt their smear.

Howard Dean used to call them out on it.

Debbie obviously hangs out with people who say it that way all the time and has accepted it as normal.

A GOP 'talking point'

to the right.

Tweety, of course, sycophant that he is (note that I am using the polite term for it but we all know what that means) is buttering up (there is another more apt term for that too) to his bosses and trying to make Sanders look like some extremist.

Sanders is a Democratic Socialist as are many people in Europe and as are lots of people in the US. Bernie Sanders has caucused with Democrats for many years. He is at home with Democrats.

Tweey is "sychophanting" up to the big bosses as usual. What a loser!

I wonder how Rachel Maddow is dealing with this? I can't picture her sychophanting up. She is way above that. Way above her bosses too so she would have to sychophant down to them, and that is hard to do.

Good luck, Rachel.

Sorry about Comcast.

now DWS disappoints me.
Correct me if I am wrong but I view a social democrat as something quite different from a socialist. I think this is the distinction DWS should have drawn.

and a fascist. That would be interesting.

He was young then.

Johnson who signed the Civil Rights and Medicare Bills among other things. Bernie is more like LBJ in terms of his social programs than any presidential candidate at this time.

It is really a cheap shot for Matthews to quibble over the Democratic Socialist label that Bernie wears. Bernie would probably differ with Johnson on foreign policy, but not much on social policies. Bernie is no extremist from what I hear in his speeches, and I listen to him a lot.

The Democratic Party has moved far to the left of the Party that I grew up in with Truman, Johnson, McGovern, McCarthy (ran for president) and even Carter.

And Tweety has moved right with the Party. I'm still of the old school, what Democrats have been historically.

Bill Clinton tried to play the folksy, old-school Democrat, but he really wasn't as we realized in 2008 when his bank and other schemes fell apart. Right now we are reaping the right-wing harvest of Bill Clinton's signing the Telecommunications Act.

Just a suspicion.

she did seem to be struggling to not step in places she was told not to.

than the old cold war socialism that you are more familiar with."

She could have gone on to say, "Bernie's positions resonate with the American people and as such should be considered main stream."

She would have done us all a favor.

It was a farce.

With this kind of spin being used against Bernie and no debates even scheduled is it any wonder that many Americans have no clue what Bernie is about.

Not one mention of Bernie advocating a Medicare for all plan on the 50th anniversary of medicare & the fact the America is one of the only major industrial countries without such a plan for it's citizens.

Not one mention of paying for college education with a stock transaction tax that would also impede high frequency trading practices. A tax that we use to have (in New York) many years ago and has been eliminated.

No discussion of the bipartisan effort to reinstate Glass Steagall and Bernie's attempts to break up the too big to fail banks that were at the heart of the great recession.

No discussion of wealth inequality where the middle class incomes are shrinking while corporate profits are at all time highs.

No instead Mathews helped DWS look like she was not playing favorites by stalling on the debate schedule by making the entire discussion about a false narrative that Bernie is a "socialist" who doesn't deserve to speak at the national convention. And for DWS's part she sat there and looked shocked while letting the narrative play out...

Amazing how much a non-answer can you tell you. Usually much more than most outright answers from the mouths of corporate sycophants.

. . . I thought Matthews was an asshole in this interview. NO party chairman would answer a question like that a year before the convention.

Just asks a question and then jumps all over the person with comment and more questions. I stopped watching him. I feel sorry for the folk who come on his show.

and Chris is one of the first to dance to the music.

Mathews can only use empty rhetoric and blatantly false talking points to discuss Sanders as talking about the issues would be a disastrous fail for his opinion of Bernie.

It's a shameful act. He should be called out for resorting to name calling and school yard bully tactics instead of talking about the issues at the core of Sanders' campaign....

weekend, ha, ha summer fling like other pundits who've been using the joke (?). Why was DWS unprepared esp. with Matthews who is known for weird behavior and badgering. She looked clueless, as usual and needs to go; it's overdue.

Exhibit A of why I don't watch MSNBC.

DWS won't answer a question without a talking point and CM won't shut the fuck up long enough for her canned answer.
A horrible interview.

She should have been Replaced on November 5th 2014.

had to stop it @ 30 seconds in.
DWS may have said something stupid during the interview but who could hear it over Matthews bleating?

the American people - absolutely that should be featured".

How outrageous!! Rhetorical Bombs away! Facts be damned!

........

"What is the difference between you and a socialist?" asks Tweety. What does that even mean?

Anyone?

didn't call Matthews out on being a total dick. However, her refusal to recognize and talk about Bernie, just shows how ineffective she is.

What does DNC stand for? Can someone explain this to her. Support of all democratic candidates!!! Don't she want whats best for the country?

Favoritism and failure to perform her job, doesn't cut it with me.

It's time for her to go.

He just happens to call himself a socialist.

i know she's deserving of criticism, but not here.

For the election in 2008, by this time(in 2007), there were 5 debates, 4 being televised. Why hasn't there been a debate scheduled?
Doesn't Wasserman play a part in that?

Hell, why stop there, Matt. Go for the jugular, difference between a Communist and a Liberal, a Marxist and a Hippie, a black guy and a white guy, a lesbian and a gay guy. Jesus, he could just go on and on.

Should have told him to STFU . Should have warned Debbie there would be a quiz before she got on his show.

No one it seems is taught to give a straight answer anymore. They were interviewing the head of Planned Parenthood and when asked about the transfer of fetal tissue to researchers she could not give a simple "no".

Wasserman-Shultz stumbles for a simple answer and when she tries, Matthews (who compensates for his intellectual limits by insulting his guests) hammers the word "SOCIALIST" like Joseph McCarthy

Politics isn't a process of governing the Nation anymore, its a reality show run by intellectual cowards

He has had many moments of low class TV reporting. But, this conversation is the absolutely the worst presentation I've ever seen from him. He got down to the level of Savage and some of the other TV slime balls. Not only was he making every effort to make Sanders appear to be a political pariah, he was extremely rude to the lady. He made himself look like a biased , stupid idiot.


That's it for me. I'm never listening to him again. He has gone full blown FOX news style.

Now that MSNBC is getting rid of it's "Left Image"...it's time for "Twist in the Wind Tweety" to pull his full dark side out once again.

I don't know if you remember that time here.

went beyond all lines of reasonable TV reporting. He sounded like he was going "nuts". I'm totally over him and MSNBC. Too bad.
It was fairly nice while it lasted.

I would have pointed out to him that he had asked me the same questions over and over all while talking over the guest making it difficult to speak. That interview is going to go down in history as one of the worst interviews ever given on national TV by a professional news person.

D.W.S. Is a less professional than Tweety .They are truly T.V. material = culteral polution .