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Hillary Clinton ad: "Family Strong" (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2015 OP
K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #1
Great ad Gothmog Aug 2015 #2
Brilliantly done ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #3
A Nice, Fuzzy, Feel Good Ad, But What I'd Really Like to See... panfluteman Aug 2015 #4
Oh Jesus Christ someone had to post something negative about this ad bigdarryl Aug 2015 #6
What makes the truth negative???????? What about TPP? What about Keystone? What about fracking?.... marble falls Aug 2015 #9
You don't even know the difference between Fast Track and the TPP!?!?!? Divernan Aug 2015 #14
Yes ...because everyone knew the secret details ...just like I did. L0oniX Aug 2015 #19
I'm sorry that a candidate you were never going to vote for.... brooklynite Aug 2015 #8
Lol can you imagine how long the ad would be? Evergreen Emerald Aug 2015 #11
Oh come on now ...I'm sure Iraqi families are feeling all "Nice, Fuzzy, Feel Good" about her vote... L0oniX Aug 2015 #20
It's a good ad. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #5
Mrs. Clinton beats Bernie in the looks department. ladjf Aug 2015 #7
Excellent ad. Evergreen Emerald Aug 2015 #10
She left out her support for cluster bombs and land mines. Divernan Aug 2015 #12
Clinton on Land Mines Divernan Aug 2015 #13
Clinton "co-presidency" caves to warhawks to look strong in election year. Divernan Aug 2015 #15
I think that'll be in her next ad, which will be released after her competitor.... George II Aug 2015 #16
"Hi.... Plucketeer Aug 2015 #17
~ L0oniX Aug 2015 #18
Now for the rest of the story Geronimoe Aug 2015 #21

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
4. A Nice, Fuzzy, Feel Good Ad, But What I'd Really Like to See...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:31 AM
Aug 2015

Is an ad about the TPP; the Keystone XL; Reinstating Glass - Steagal... and of course overturning Citizens United. I think that the last issue is the one that is the most likely to be covered in a political ad from Hillary. As for the others, we may be waiting a long, long time...

Earlier on this morning, I saw Papantonio and Ed talk about the deafening silence from Hillary when she was asked about one of the above key issues. I've also watched other videos in which the commentators speculated that Hillary might be getting very scared as to exactly how to respond. After all, she's caught in the horns of a great dilemma on these issues, with her top campaign donors on one side, and the American people on the other.

I was thinking... Maybe the best way for Hillary to respond to these tough questions would be not to take any more speaking engagements with the public, and just blanket the country in warm, fuzzy, feel good ads like this one, riding them as if they were a magic carpet escorting her effortlessly to the Democratic nomination...

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
6. Oh Jesus Christ someone had to post something negative about this ad
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:09 AM
Aug 2015

No one really gives a shit about TPP if they did there would be massive protest in this country after the Senate voted for it

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
9. What makes the truth negative???????? What about TPP? What about Keystone? What about fracking?....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:52 AM
Aug 2015

What about surveillance? What about mandatory sentencing? What about three strike laws?

Do her positions on these issues, that most likely contradict your own, really get trumped by a warm fuzzy?

What candidate is anti-"family strong"? Its really not a bold stand. Her stand on Keystone certainly is bold, why won't she explain it?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. You don't even know the difference between Fast Track and the TPP!?!?!?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:49 AM
Aug 2015

Sheesh! Good grief! The Senate did NOT vote on the TPP.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
19. Yes ...because everyone knew the secret details ...just like I did.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:53 AM
Aug 2015
No one really gives a shit about TPP if they did there would be massive protest in this country

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
8. I'm sorry that a candidate you were never going to vote for....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:33 AM
Aug 2015

...isn't running her campaign the way you'd like.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
20. Oh come on now ...I'm sure Iraqi families are feeling all "Nice, Fuzzy, Feel Good" about her vote...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:55 AM
Aug 2015

for a war that killed them.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
7. Mrs. Clinton beats Bernie in the looks department.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:30 AM
Aug 2015

She looks fabulous in the opening photograph. This is an outstanding campaign ad. But, I still favor Bernie for the Presidency.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
12. She left out her support for cluster bombs and land mines.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:35 AM
Aug 2015
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-18/article/29503
Commentary: Hillary Clinton’s Shameful Vote on Cluster Bombs
By Paul Rockwell
Tuesday March 18, 2008

In her autobiography, Living History, Senator Hillary Clinton portrays herself as an advocate for children, a defender of women and human rights. In fact, the Clintons have a long history of sacrificing the rights, even the lives of children, for political expediency. It is time to set the record straight.
[b]I. CLUSTER BOMBS

On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill—a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas—presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world. The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children.

Senator Obama voted for the amendment to ban cluster bombs. Senator Clinton, however, voted with the Republicans to kill the humanitarian bill, an amendment in accord with the Geneva Conventions, which already prohibit the use of indiscriminate weapons in populated areas.

All senators are expected to inform themselves on the issues before they cast a vote. The evidence is overwhelming. It is hard to believe that Senator Clinton was unaware of the humanitarian crisis when she voted to continue the use of cluster bombs in cities and populated areas. A U.N. weapons commission called cluster bombs “weapons of indiscriminate effect.” For years the international press reported the horrific consequences of cluster bombs on civilians. On April 10, 2003, for example, Asia Times described the carnage in Baghdad hospitals: “The absolute majority of patients are women and children, victims of shrapnel, and most of all, fragments of cluster bombs.” Reporting from a hospital in Hillah, The Mirror, a British newspaper, became graphic: “Shrapnel peppered their bodies. Blackened the skin. Smashed heads. Tore limbs. A doctor reports that ‘all the injuries you see were caused by cluster bombs. The majority of the victims were children who died because they were outside."




Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. Clinton on Land Mines
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:37 AM
Aug 2015
Clinton on landmines
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-18/article/29503
Commentary: Hillary Clinton’s Shameful Vote on Cluster Bombs
By Paul Rockwell
Tuesday March 18, 2008

Of course Senator Clinton did not expect her vote on cluster bombs to become an issue in a presidential campaign. But that vote is one of many examples in a pattern of indifference to the welfare of children in the Developing World.

Because Clinton is now taking credit for the White House years, when she was a partner in power, we should also look closely at the Clinton policy regarding landmines, an issue of great concern to parents, to all those who care for children. The United States is the leading manufacturer of landmines. For families across the rest of the globe, landmines are buried terror. More than 100 million landmines are deployed in over 60 countries worldwide—nine million in Angola, 10 million in Cambodia. About 20,000 M14 antipersonnel mines are buried in the mountain areas of Yong-do, South Korea. According to U.N. estimates, 26,000 people, mostly civilians in developing countries, are killed or mutilated by landmines every year. In rural areas landmines are so ubiquitous and lethal, peasants risk their lives to earn a living tilling the soil and planting crops.

The worldwide movement to ban landmines burgeoned in the Clinton years. It was a visionary U.S. citizen, Jody Williams of Vermont, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to end the ignominy of landmines. And it was primarily in defense of children that Princess Diana, speaking from a minefield in Angola, raised international awareness about devastation caused by weapons from the West.

In December 1997, 137 nations, more than two-thirds of the world, signed the Ottawa treaty, an agreement to ban the use, production, stockpiling and transfer of anti-personnel landmines. How did the Clintons respond to world opinion, to the humanitarian movement against landmines?

President Clinton flat out refused to become party to the Ottawa Convention. As he put it, “I could not sign in good conscience the treaty banning landmines.” In “good conscience”?! Landmines are not good for children, Hillary.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. Clinton "co-presidency" caves to warhawks to look strong in election year.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:58 AM
Aug 2015

Here we see the Clinton co-presidency in action. Great but empty rhetoric with no follow through.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Life_Death_ThirdWorld/landmines.html

It looked like 1996 would be the year of change. A huge international effort to ban landmines yielded some results. Forty-one nations, from Afghanistan to Uruguay, have now stated their support for an immediate and comprehensive ban on antipersonnel mines. Twenty-four nations have renounced use of AP mines. Eleven nations are now destroying part or all of their stocks of antipersonnel landmines. Twenty one nations have prohibited production of antipersonnel mines. In January, Canada suspended all production and use of antipersonnel mines, effective immediately. In April, Germany renounced all production and use of antipersonnel mines, effective immediately. On May 3, the last day of the recent UN review conference, France, Portugal, Malta, Angola, and South Africa called for an immediate ban.

In the US, several high-ranking military officers, both active and retired, called on President Clinton to support an immediate and total ban on landmines, and Clinton had wanted to announce that the US would ban the use of land mines by 1999.

Clinton caves in
But, the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Armed Forces was strongly opposed to a land mine ban, and Clinton simply caved in and adopted the Joint Chiefs' position. He felt he could not upset the Joint Chiefs and appear to be a weak Commander-In-Chief in an election year. So he accepted the Pentagon plan for continued use of land mines.

In announcing his policy President Clinton failed to fulfill his September 1994 pledge to eliminate antipersonnel landmines. He instead yielded to the wishes of his most hawkish military advisers, while ignoring the protestations of many in the State Department, Agency for International Development, and other branches of government who are most familiar with the humanitarian and socio-economic disaster caused by mines.

Rhetoric but no action
President Clinton's declaration for the elimination of antipersonnel landmines is empty rhetoric until a definitive deadline is added to that goal.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. I think that'll be in her next ad, which will be released after her competitor....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:24 AM
Aug 2015

....explains his votes in favor of gun manufacturers and against the Brady Bill.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
17. "Hi....
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:32 AM
Aug 2015

I actually have a stance on the TPP. I have a stance on Keystone XL as well. Put me in the oval office and I'll reveal them to you."

I think I actually liked "Hope & Change" better.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
21. Now for the rest of the story
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:26 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary chose to stay at Yale taking post grad courses to be with Bill as he finished his last year of law school. Child Defense Fund work was part of her post graduate work as internship. She could have worked for prestigious law firm instead. And indeed she did two years later for the Rose Law Firm. After only two years of work in patent law, as first Lady of Arkansas she became partner of the law firm and sat on the board of Walmart, that doesn't pay a living wage to people like Dorothy.

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