And they are not my enemies. Before the fall of the Shah, Iran was fairly open, liberal, westernized and secular. It shows promise of being so again, but not if we don't cultivate some friendships. Some politicians feel they must appease the virulently pro-Israel voters by hammering away at Iran. It's a similar situation to Cuba.

That's what I want to know.

albeit that is one bloody country

...and contrary to a historical or humanitarian perspective.
Very sad.

Jeez.

as far as foreign policy. I had thought she was economically liberal but now not so sure. not like I just jumped for Bernie. But she lost me over a decade ago then Sicko came out and I guess for a woman to go somewhere, she has to go right wing I guess. Which is not what we want at the moment...

I voted for Obama to try and undo the issues Bush did. Now that he's managed to steer us away from the abyss hoping Bernie can keep things going in that direction.. I trust Hillary as much as I trust Iran. But what Obama did with Iran is basically genius . It weakened Iran's position. We can't just Bomb Iran. Want to lose whatever wars we got going on totally?

So I would take strong exception to that. But I'm not really sure Clinton meant it against the people as is being proposed here. I suspect she meant it against the leaders and politicians who are resisting nuclear transparency.

“In addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians, probably the Republicans.”

The Iranian people are NOT our enemies, and if we are going to talk like that, they may soon become such.
When she said that I was stunned. They are a mighty power and a strong influence in the region, and they probably have the most economic future looking forward. They are a very young nation of citizens, and using that sort of loose statement is going to send more distance between us. We all know they are controlled by the old, hate-filled religious order, and we should be encouraging them to move away from those leaders who believe we are the spawn of Satan. It's only Darth Cheney and a small number of hate filled neocons in this country that fit that label. Does she want to be included in that number?

when she said she was proud to be an enemy of the Republicans. True, they are all batshit, but should she get the nomination, she will need to embrace all Americans, even if they are hostile toward her. You know a la Obama. Just my two cents...

Wow .. what if she told us what she really thinks

And she was Secretary of State!!!!!

. . . and was simply appalled by it!

Is David Frum writing for her now?

Strongly reduced any enthusiasm I had for her.
Still, I think she's the Democrat most likely to beat any Republican contender.

Some of the Iranians probably do consider her as an "enemy" because she was an integral part of the newer sanctions put upon them.

Making an enemy via your actions does not mean that you consider them an enemy. You are putting words in her mouth and are quite frankly guilty of taking some out, mainly the ones where she named the Republicans.

Nice try, no sale.

I doubt she meant all Iranians, but it's really sloppy.

She said "the Iranians." I have some friends who are Iranian. This pissed me off.

Plus this happened like 5 days ago so it's not really relevant. People evolve.

i almost forgot i was watching the DEM debate. very upsetting

calling the Chinese leader shameless for being a co-host of the UN women's rights event. I KNOW this was cheered by her fan base, but his being there in that forum was not the problem. It could even have been very very cautiously said to show that even China now accepts that women should have rights.

That was also what disturbed me when she told her version of the Copenhagen climate change fiasco. Seriously, her description sounds almost more like what Trump might do. Obama, who did not speak of hunting down the Chinese, told PBS that the results were disappointing when he spoke of it shortly after it happened - http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/excerpt-obama-on-disappointment-in-copenhagen/

I remember watching SFRC and the House equivalent in 2007 when the Bush administration spoke of the Bali conference. One of the good things that happened there was that the issue that the developing world could not be expected to have goals with the same format as the developed world. Both John Kerry and Al Gore, who were there saw 2009 - with either Obama or McCain as when a deal could really be made. ( http://www.eenews.net/stories/1059972910 ) Copenhagen was a REAL disappointment and led to Kerry being told when he became SoS that there was little chance of diplomacy with China on this.

It is almost like she ignores that the rest of the world hears what she says and reads what is written in her name. If she becomes President, which is very likely, do you think that these comments made for political reasons are helpful?

Cornerstone of mcCain's foreign policy was going on stage to sing-song "Bomb, Bomb iran!"

As secretary of state, she vowed to "obliterate" Iran if they ever attacked Israel. The qualifier makes it a hollow threat (Iran's not gonna fuckin' attack Israel) but that she thought that vowing a nation's obliteration in any context was a good thing to say?

And then there's her vote for Kyl-Lieberman.

What matters is that she is a woman. A woman will be starting more wars, a woman will be killing more brown people on the other side of the planet. That's progress to Hillary supporters.