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Which Side Are You On? Third Way (Hillary) vs. FDR (Bernie) (Original Post) thomhartmann Dec 2015 OP
FDR..... daleanime Dec 2015 #1
Tom Hartman is not a Dem: and he was Nader supporter: Hillary lewebley3 Dec 2015 #4
So how many more Wars.... daleanime Dec 2015 #7
Hillary is not FDR's heir. THis from an FDR dem. roguevalley Dec 2015 #8
if bernie would stop voting to pay for all these wars maybe they would end nt msongs Dec 2015 #15
At which point you would, properly at that point..... daleanime Dec 2015 #19
Wrong FDR: said to be good president one must be good card player lewebley3 Dec 2015 #24
No, he is not a Dem, but he supports Democratic principles. Duval Dec 2015 #10
No, Hartman makes up ideologue theories: that have nothing to do lewebley3 Dec 2015 #23
Says the guy on Putin sponsored Russia Today. Got it! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #2
His biggest audience is Free Speech TV which also hosts Democracy Now. Duval Dec 2015 #11
AGAIN! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #17
Odd you ask that Buzz cook Dec 2015 #3
rt? stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #5
Interesting that neither discussed yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #6
They were talking about front runners. Duval Dec 2015 #12
Yes it is. I just inserted him, below. elleng Dec 2015 #14
elleng, Thom has said time and again that all THREE would make a good President. Duval Dec 2015 #16
He should put his 'money' where his mouth is, Duval. elleng Dec 2015 #20
FDR! Thanks for posting, Dr. Hartmann. I'm hoping this will evolve into a Duval Dec 2015 #9
The Best Way, elleng Dec 2015 #13
With all respect, Thom (and for you I have plenty) DFW Dec 2015 #18
So you agree with Bernie that we must take away the Corporate power over our politicians. A Simple Game Dec 2015 #21
I'd go you one further DFW Dec 2015 #22
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
4. Tom Hartman is not a Dem: and he was Nader supporter: Hillary
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:59 PM
Dec 2015


is FDR heir: she is crafty smart politician, that get things done,
not an ideologue.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
7. So how many more Wars....
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

do we need?

Although I will concede on "crafty smart politician", problem is that's exactly what we don't need and "get things done" is a dream, we'll see even more gridlock then we do now.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
19. At which point you would, properly at that point.....
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:33 PM
Dec 2015

be screaming about not supporting the troops in the field. Just be honest with yourself. You don't care about American lives, neither our solders aboard or our own at home, you care about making Hillary president.


Why?

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
23. No, Hartman makes up ideologue theories: that have nothing to do
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 03:10 PM
Dec 2015


with Hillary is a very practical politician like FDR: she will do what
works for most.
 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
11. His biggest audience is Free Speech TV which also hosts Democracy Now.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:54 PM
Dec 2015

Thank heavens he is able to be seen on RT, because some do not get FSTV. His synopsis on RT at least gets some honesty and integrity into our news. If you would please listen or go to his website, you would get a clear picture of where he stands on issues. By the way, I'm a Tarheel, too, and really don't want to think a fellow North Carolinian and Democrat would form an opinion without being informed.

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
3. Odd you ask that
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:30 PM
Dec 2015

At the start of the financial crisis, Clinton was advocating for the revival of a New Deal program to help with people under water with their loans, being foreclosed on and cheated out of their homes.

The Home Owners Loan Corporation HOLC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Owners%27_Loan_Corporation

Was a very successful program that save thousands of families. Unfortunately the Obama administration went with bank saving instead of people saving.

The point is if you want to have people who act like FDR then Clinton is one example.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
16. elleng, Thom has said time and again that all THREE would make a good President.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dec 2015

I listen to him often. Go to his website and you'll see.

elleng

(131,173 posts)
20. He should put his 'money' where his mouth is, Duval.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:10 PM
Dec 2015

This is the 2d time I've heard/heard of him giving short shrift to Martin O'Malley.

Thanks for your positive approach.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
9. FDR! Thanks for posting, Dr. Hartmann. I'm hoping this will evolve into a
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:41 PM
Dec 2015

discussion on important issues. My husband and I have been listening for years now, and you have always spoken truth to power.
I am saddened by some of the rude and ignorant comments, and sad that DU appears to be in turmoil right now.

As you say: "DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT, get out there, get active, TAG..you're it!!"


DFW

(54,447 posts)
18. With all respect, Thom (and for you I have plenty)
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:17 PM
Dec 2015

I don't see the choice as quite so cut and dried yet. As a current resident of Germany and weekly visitor to Belgium and France, speaking the languages of all three, I can tell you that the implementation of Social Democracy is not without its perils, both for the people ruled and for the system being implemented. All-powerful bureaucrats are just as absolutely corruptible (and corrupting!) as all-powerful industrial magnates.

With warm regards, your friendly author of "The Time Cellar" and lyricist of the "Freedom Toast" political music videos.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
21. So you agree with Bernie that we must take away the Corporate power over our politicians.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:27 PM
Dec 2015

You must also agree with Bernie that we need to take away the advantage these financial bribes by the corporations give to incumbent politicians thus creating a more level playing field for incumbents to be challenged by fresh people participating in our political process.

I strongly feel we need to get back to more citizen representation in our government and not just professional politicians.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
22. I'd go you one further
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:09 AM
Dec 2015

I live in Germany, where elections are publicly financed. No outside money allowed. By law. That's what we need, too. Not everything works better in Germany, but this does.

I also agree that career politicians are not what we need. Not exclusively, anyway. If we are having our laws made up by people who have spent their entire professional careers in one elective office or another, getting their salaries, their staffs and their travel paid from our tax money instead of ever having had to earn it themselves out there in the real world, they'll never know what it means to us normal mortals who don't have our existence handed to us on a silver spoon. People who vote on what the minimum wage is ought to know what it means to have to try to live on it first.

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