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(13,326 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)night a friend told me same thing.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)He's right more than he's wrong (by far) and he's trying to learn. He's just trying to learn the truth, and he's letting us tag along.
I put him firmly in the "Needed Progressives" category.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
was the one who had her race bait and make innuendo remarks about O being a Muslim, in the later months of 2008.
There's more at stake for the Clintons than just the WH. By running and losing again, the cache of The Clinton Foundation will go way down. They'll have lost a lot of their power, much of it based on perception.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)the 1%ers' daughter lying just like her parents...who could have imagined that?...
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)You know what it's REALLY going to take for the voters to show HRC the door? THIS!
A dynasty like the Bushies is easy enough to loathe, but THIS makes me want to spit up. It's never been hard to have someone behind the curtain (or in the underground bunker, running the demons above) with the Bushes, but with the Clintons... Man, they're something else.
These people have taken what their generation was inspired after JFK dared us to dream about the America we could have, and they have pissed all over it in full uniform with their version of how all America needs is a leg up, and not a hand out, welfare reform is good, imbalanced media ownership and trade agreements are good for all the hustings while they sit higher and more out of reach and touch with America.
This is a clear example of how to WHORE yourselves and slap the face of anyone who has a life long goal to help the working class. They know it's a lie. They don't CARE if it's a lie. That's never been clearer than now.
They don't care who says what to get what... winning is the goal... not what is administered from the ivory tower Turning their backs on the poor with welfare reform, cozying up to big businesses while draining what was left of the electronic industry, and every other middle class job related industry didn't matter then. Lying about single payer health care doesn't matter now. It's too tied in with the fascism they either don't WANT to recognize, or simply gave up on long ago.
Lying doesn't mean a Goddamned thing when the goal is winning or keeping what you have, eh Bill? Yeah, he's probably behind this latest thing. It will backfire.
I don't care if it does, cause I'm way past feeling anything for this entire family anymore, including their sell-out daughter.
BernTheRich
(29 posts)Thank you for articulating so well the feelings I've had towards the Clintons for years.
Whether it was 2008 or the current election, I've noticed a common response from people when Hillary's name comes up: "I don't trust her." I don't think it's coincidence.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Hey, you're in SW PA, too, I see!
BernTheRich
(29 posts)Just southeast of Pittsburgh.
Howdy Neighbor!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I phone banked for Bernie tonight, as I do each Wednesday and some Sundays.
Good night, neighbor!