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My Phone-Banking Call With An Angry Conservative (NSFW) (Original Post) matthewf Jan 2016 OP
That was funny. zeemike Jan 2016 #1
Thanks. And don't I know it! n/t matthewf Jan 2016 #6
I think he might have been coming around near the end there. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #2
Ha! Maybe. n/t matthewf Jan 2016 #7
People like this.... Delver Rootnose Jan 2016 #3
I've run into people who are absolutely like that Populist_Prole Jan 2016 #5
They think "Capitalism = Freedom" and nobody else as free as the U-S-of-fuckin'-A. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #10
Yes. They have a most twisted sense of martyrdom Populist_Prole Jan 2016 #11
Rule #1 with Conservatives is NEVER admit you're wrong.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #14
The last time I saw my dad, he was ranting about phylny Jan 2016 #13
How much do you want to bet.... Rider3 Jan 2016 #4
"Government hands off my Social Security!" GoneFishin Jan 2016 #8
Don't laugh, but Populist_Prole Jan 2016 #12
This might be a little bit messed up, but when I would get people like that back in the day Tiggeroshii Jan 2016 #9
Ha! n/t matthewf Jan 2016 #15

Delver Rootnose

(250 posts)
3. People like this....
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

...couldn't even define the difference between communism, communism as practiced by Lenin or Stalin, or the Chinese. Let alone define what a socialist is.

And what amazes me is they don't think twice about buying communist made crap from China or supporting trade with communists. Or dictators, or facists.

And they call us ignorant.

Sheesh.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
5. I've run into people who are absolutely like that
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jan 2016

They know the labels only as slurs and have no idea of what the ideologies actually mean.

"And what amazes me is they don't think twice about buying communist made crap from China or supporting trade with communists. Or dictators, or facists"

Amazes me too. While the "I got mine, the hell with you" attitude is the obvious root cause of that dichotomy, I've asked brought up this very dynamic with conservative friend of mine and his motivation was mostly to stick it to organized labor here in the US. What a twisted git.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
11. Yes. They have a most twisted sense of martyrdom
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:23 AM
Jan 2016

I have to think, I mean really, some of them just have to know they're being had, but having so garishly painted themselves into corners, would rather fall than admit they made a mistake.

"Pride goeth before a fall" and all that.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. Rule #1 with Conservatives is NEVER admit you're wrong....
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jan 2016

That's why I take great delight in telling them they are wrong.

phylny

(8,389 posts)
13. The last time I saw my dad, he was ranting about
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jan 2016

Obama (he hates him) and Cuba and how Castro "Waited us out!" I said, "Dad, what are you upset about? Communism? We trade with Communist China all the time."

He stopped in his tracks

Rider3

(919 posts)
4. How much do you want to bet....
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

That this guy is on, or knows someone who is on, a social program. Unemployment, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, etc., etc. It reminds me of a clip showing the actor, Craig T. Nelson, said, “They’re not going to bail me out,” Nelson said. “I’ve been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No. No.” They have no clue what social programs are. They just want to scream about them. These are people voting against their better welfare. Here's the article in full: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/the_craig_t_nelson_problem030622.php

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
12. Don't laugh, but
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:28 AM
Jan 2016

Well, it's OK to laugh....

Back when my right-wing father was nearly insufferable to be around a few years after election day in '08, I made a jab about the tea-party hypocrisy as some of them said "keep government hands off my medicare". He completely missed the irony and took it at face value and chimed in vociferously: He didn't get it at all. This was Poe's Law before I even knew what the term meant.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
9. This might be a little bit messed up, but when I would get people like that back in the day
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jan 2016

I would sometimes mark them "undecided" just to let them know we care, and give them another call. I'm a bad person.

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