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hschulein

(1,168 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:27 AM Feb 2016

Mike Malloy - How Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem Betrayed Women



I am a young woman, a feminist, and I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States. Up until this past weekend, I did not see anything contradictory in this statement. However, two feminist icons, Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem have recently made statements implying that my position is both a betrayal of my gender and my identification as a feminist.

In the past few days, Albright and Steinem have shamed young female feminists for not supporting Hillary Clinton in her bid for the presidency. "There's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other!" Ms. Albright declared at a rally for Clinton in New Hampshire. Mrs. Clinton, apparently in agreement, grinned proudly at these words.

Full story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katie-dreyer/madeleine-and-gloria-betrayed-women-everywhere_b_9190676.html

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Mike Malloy - How Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem Betrayed Women (Original Post) hschulein Feb 2016 OP
I am one of those old women and while I don't think I would jwirr Feb 2016 #1
Same here... unapatriciated Feb 2016 #2
My story is much like yours. I to had a child in need of care jwirr Feb 2016 #3
sounds very similar unapatriciated Feb 2016 #4
Very few understand what it is like to be in that situation. jwirr Feb 2016 #6
I understand my son is on SSI unapatriciated Feb 2016 #7
Very sorry to hear this. But we do what we have to do. jwirr Feb 2016 #9
And we can add Jennifer Granholm to the list rocktivity Feb 2016 #5
Did any of these women support Geronimoe Feb 2016 #8

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. I am one of those old women and while I don't think I would
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

have said it like he did - I agree with him. The women's rights movement was NEVER just about our vagina. It was about wages, jobs, poverty, being taken seriously when we said something or voted. It was even then about many of the issues Bernie talks about today and he was talking about them then to.

These women are as much out of touch with what is happening to day as Hillary is - no wonder they are supporting her.

They are insulting and as one issue as the Rs.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
2. Same here...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

I'm almost 64, a Dem since my teens. I take my voting rights very seriously, that is one way of speaking up for many who have no voice. Health care is just one of many issues that I'm passionate about. I have been advocating for single payor since 1991. I lived the horror of dealing with issuance companies being the gate keeper for my son's health care. Watched as he slowly declined, while they denied needed treatment. I worked two and sometimes three jobs just so I could pay for his medicine. Learned how to deliver his physical therapy myself. This was time taken away from him and my other children. I eventually had to sell my home to cover cost not covered by insurance.

I wrote letter after letter telling my story to my reps and to two administrations during the 1990's and early 2000's (I got one reply and that was from an R about gun control).

When President Obama started the campaign for a better health care system, I once again had hope. I again started my letter campaign telling my story and why I supported Universal Healthcare. The only response I received was from a film maker who cared, you will find my son's illness listed in the film as one who was denied due to preexisting.

When Michael Moores Sicko came out, I had hope that people and our government would see just how devastating it was for our health to allow insurance companies to be in control and take dollars from our health care.

The ACA has helped many but it still leaves the Insurance Industry in charge of our health care and that hurts many who suffer with chronic illnesses. They are left in poverty and poor health due to rising co-pays and pharmaceuticals.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. My story is much like yours. I to had a child in need of care
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

but I was lucky - my ex left us because of the costs and I became eligible for Medicaid. But yes there are many personal reasons that women had for working for women's rights and it was almost never to catch a guy.

What an insult that was to our young women.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
4. sounds very similar
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

My ex also left because of the cost but I was receiving insurance through my employment. When I lost my job and insurance the state required that their father carry health insurance because it was available through his employment. My son didn't qualify for medicaid until he was 21 due to availability of insurance from his fathers employment and later mine (thanks to my union).

It's a special hell for those who have insurance yet can't get health care. Moore's "Sicko" explained it very well. I have tried to explain it a few times during the ACA debates on DU. I get responses like "cool story bro", why didn't you sue or why didn't you take your son to a different doctor. What they failed to understand when you have spent your life savings, sold your house and are just hanging onto your job there is nothing left to pay for another doctor. You are trapped in the inadequate care doled out by the insurance industry.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Very few understand what it is like to be in that situation.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

And especially when like in your case it looks just fine on the outside. "Just change doctors" as if there is some doctor out there who is going to work for free and pay for the meds that they give you.

I really hope that someone will listen to us in the next presidency because there are many of us parents who are almost totally ignore when it comes to the desperation of our true needs.

For me it has extended into my own retirement. Taking care of my daughter 24/7 was not considered a job so now I live in poverty (actually living in various families homes) with less than $750 a month to live on. I want to help the young parents who are going through what we did now. Too late for me but not for them.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
7. I understand my son is on SSI
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:20 PM
Feb 2016

not only does he live below the poverty line it is still difficult to find and receive proper medical care. At 38 my son is rapidly declining, he had a heart attack last year that required two stints, several disk in back and neck are degenerating his doctors feel it is only a matter of time before he is confined to a wheel chair. I'm in the process of transferring back to the west coast to take care of him (he lives with a sibling who has a family of his own to care for). I will have to work well into my seventies just to take care of my son.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
5. And we can add Jennifer Granholm to the list
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

She's told CNN that she's disappointed in young women who don't support Hillary. Does that mean she'd be pleased if Sanders -- or Trump -- were a woman?

Steinem doesn't surprise me though: she defended Miley Cyrus by saying, "I wish we didn’t have to be nude to be noticed...But that’s the way the culture is. I think that we need to change the culture, not blame the people that are playing the only game that exists." I guess she's forgotten about the magazine she started by saying "No" to playing the game -- and which went on to change the culture.


rocktivity

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
8. Did any of these women support
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

McCain and Palin? I mean a female VP is a step in the right direction according to them. Just a heart beat away from being President.

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