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(869 posts)Voting Clinton will only prolong the long slow death of the middle class, and put a moderate on the supreme court.
Her voting record, her husbands record, and their ties to corporate industrialists makes that much clear.
Sanders should be the nominee, and failing that, he should run as an independent.
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(1,250 posts)If you to prevent the low turnout problem, make Bernie Sanders the Democratic nominee.
Time to stop voting scared & voting out of misplaced loyalties.
It's time to change this party once & for all.
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bjobotts
(9,141 posts)Because there were 5 candidate organizations less out there pounding the pavement to get voters out. Concentrate on the general for voter turnout otherwise your comparing apples and oranges. Sanders will be the harder candidate to defeat according to the current RNC chairmanj and he's right. Clinton comes with too much baggage and as a corporate dem will not do as well against Trump. Her campaign economic advisor is a Goldman-Sachs ex who wrote and slipped in the Grahm-Leach- Bliley bill into an ominus bill to keep the government funded and it caused the current Tax payer bailout of the Banks and Wall street for all the derivitive action. Hartmann has a post on DU explaining how she is lying about her corporate ties. Time to stop pretending she is what you want her to be and start looking at what she really is...willing to say and do anything to be president. She is not trust worthy even though she's better than any republican but that is such a low bar.
Red Knight
(704 posts)I don't understand this country and its apathy toward voting.
Look, I get the corruption. I get the sell-outs that promise you one thing and deliver another and of course I worry about fair elections.
Having said that I will always walk into that booth to have my voice heard. Even if it's only for myself I'll do it.
And it isn't just voting--it's ignorance of the politicians and their programs. So many people have no clue what they're voting for and often(when I talk to a lot of non-voters) don't even know or care who is running. I don't know how or if it's possible to motivate them under any circumstances.
I know the quote is used not quite how Joeseph de Maistre meant but it absolutely fits in the proper context of today's apathy:
"Every nation has the government it deserves."
This is particularly true in a democracy in this day and age with so much information at your fingertips.
You can't make people care--and you can't argue with them.
In the 1800s voter turnout was in the 70 and 80 percent range.
It really dropped in the 1900s and since 1968 we haven't hit 60 percent.
This is for presidential elections.
I would love to find if the low turnout this year is because of usual voters not showing up or the lack of new voters. Is it some combination of both?