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randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. Control? jesus, this is ridiculous...especially if you are serious, for real.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

What is so god damn hard to understand?

Trump or Rubio or Cruz equals dead Women in back alleys among other horrors

jesus

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
4. And Hillary would stop it? While Bernie wouldn't?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

Things can not continue like this, I can't pretend otherwise.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. I am a fan of Thom Hartmann, but let's get this election cycle straight.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

California has 546 delegates to the Democratic Convention -- AND WE DO NOT VOTE UNTIL JUNE 7.

Oregon and Washington states have not voted yet either.

Neither has New York.

Giving a win to Hillary so early in the game and based on votes in VERY CONSERVATIVE STATES practically disenfranchises those of us who live in states that don't vote until the end of the primary.

And we are the many.

And we are the most progressive, most liberal states.

California, Florida, Texas and New York are the immigrant states. We are the most populated states.

Texas votes today. (252 delegates)

But . . . .

Florida votes on March 15. (246 delegates)

New York votes on April 19. (291 delegates)

California does not vote until June 7. (546 delegates)

I haven't even mentioned Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, etc.

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-presidential-primary-schedule-calendar/

The conservative states vote first, thus creating the sense of a momentum toward the most conservative candidates.

Today, Hillary Clintonn will win big. Never mind that the Southern states that are among the small states she will win will never, ever yield a majority for her in November. Never mind that the votes of Californians who are excited about Bernie will probably be swept into the sea by the media's declaration of a Hillary momentum suddenly starting after today.

No wonder we can never get anywhere. No wonder our Congress is deadlocked and our society headlocked.

Our primary system is even more rigged than our economy.

It's rigged to nominate conservative candidates who represent rural, sometimes isolated areas in Iowa, New Hampshire and the South and not the majority of Americans who live in states like New York, California, Florida and, yes, Texas.

Our system is rigged to give the people who live in small states a bigger voice in selecting our candidates than is at all fair or reasonable.

Thus far, the states that have voted are small and relatively conservative. Yes. Compared to California???? Yes. Conservative.

We the people of California do not vote until June 7.

There is no momentum for any candidate until we have voted.

I am disgusted that people think that the election in ignorant South Carolina, the state that began the Civil War, the state of slavery and the legacy it has left the entire South has any significance beyond itself in our country. South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, North Carolina -- haven't voted for a Democrat in more than 20 years. And they won't vote for the Democrat this year.

California has 546 delegates. We count. This game is not over until we have voted.

I am disappointed that Thom Hartmann is joining in on the conservative chorus that would like to decide the nominee before we with our 546 (and if I could but that in large type I would) delegates have had our say.

Please don't fall for the conservative media propaganda that will argue that the contest is over before the big, liberal states vote. That's what has driven our country toward media consolidation (big prize this time is internet neutrality) and big bank consolidation (dangerous for our country) and disenfranchisement of liberals.

Please. Stop this.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
7. RIGHT.THANKS. SORRY
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

for you and all of us.

momentum = the quantity of motion of a moving body, measured as a product of its mass and velocity. Little mass, little momentum.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
10. Here in TX - my county went for Cruz & Clinton
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016

18K folks voted for repugs (Cruz the big winner by a lot)
nearly 5K voted for dems (Clinton big winner as expected)

But look at those numbers. The repugs smashed us - 18K - 5K turn out.

Please DO NOT give up in the west and north. Keep fighting. I will keep donating until I max out, and I know others will as well.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. Thanks for voting and donating.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:53 PM
Mar 2016

I think Bernie is doing well thus far tonight. Oklahoma??? That's great. And his lead in Vermont in phenomenal.

Hillary was the governor's wife in Arkansas but did not do nearly as well there as Bernie did in Vermont.

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