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(13,297 posts) Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:02 PM Mar 2016

Even Friend of Hillary, Joe Biden, Says She Can't Bring Major Change

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He doesn't blame her, she's just too polarizing to be effective in office.

I respect Joe Biden and it pained him to even say the things he did, but he was being forthright. If we want to see change happen in this country, it is going to have to come via someone else. Hillary Clinton has proved how untrustworthy she is EVEN IN DEMOCRATIC POLLING -- imagine that! The people voting in the primary that supports Democrats doesn't even trust her -- imagine the rest of the country.

She is just not the one to bring change, and given her untrustworthy numbers within the Democratic Party itself, she'll have an uphill climb to make it to the White House and the Democrats will lose all the momentum that Barack Obama's policies have started to create - not to mention the swing of the Supreme Court going far Right. Dangerous territory.

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Even Friend of Hillary, Joe Biden, Says She Can't Bring Major Change (Original Post) tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 OP

She is trying to buy it with a GolmanSachs/Wall St credit card and it INdemo Mar 2016 #1

I hope she doesn't go to the Koch's for money tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #2

This is not the first time that Biden has said something like this. merrily Mar 2016 #3

wouldn't we say the same thing about Obama? MariaThinks Mar 2016 #4

I don't know what point you are trying to make, but that is a massive false equivalency, albeit merrily Mar 2016 #5

Yeah, yeah, yeah azureblue Mar 2016 #6

Someone who knows her best, knows best tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #7

INdemo

(6,994 posts)

1. She is trying to buy it with a GolmanSachs/Wall St credit card and it

Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:25 PM

Mar 2016

appears Hillary has reached her credit limit. What she needs is votes and the trust of the people and Debbie Wassermann Schultz cant deliver that for her.She can steal votes but not trust.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)

2. I hope she doesn't go to the Koch's for money

Reply to INdemo (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:38 PM

Mar 2016

they haven't (supposedly) been giving money to anyone, but I often wonder what they are up to as the primary continues -- I personally take it as they will find the right time to throw support for someone who is pro-Wall Street and it isn't going to Trump.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

3. This is not the first time that Biden has said something like this.

Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:52 PM

Mar 2016

I agree about Hillary.

From the start, I had strong reservations about her candidacy because of the general.

Too much baggage and Clinton fatigue

Too much Back to the Future

Too little enthusiasm among Democratic voters

Too much hatred from Republicans

Too much distrust, disbelief from Democrats, Republicans and indies

Not enough "like"

Etc.

I believe Harry Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry and others chose wisely in 2008, when they backed Obama, either openly or behind the scenes. I think it's unfortunate that their 2008 decision somehow got reversed now. I suspect a deal struck in 2008 being the "somehow" but that's just me.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)

4. wouldn't we say the same thing about Obama?

Reply to merrily (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:13 PM

Mar 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)

5. I don't know what point you are trying to make, but that is a massive false equivalency, albeit

Reply to MariaThinks (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:18 PM

Mar 2016

in hypothetical form.

Is Obama running now? Are we the incumbent Democratic Vice President of the US

azureblue

(2,146 posts)

6. Yeah, yeah, yeah

Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:18 PM

Mar 2016

another fling poo on Hillary post. Yawn. You could apply the same accusations to Sanders. You clowns need to face facts here - there are no Democrats the GOP approves of. Duh...

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)

7. Someone who knows her best, knows best

Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:15 AM

Mar 2016

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