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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:07 PM Mar 2016

CNN: The Worst Video Quality EVER, But Listen to the Words



"...something is going on here!"

I always thought the reason that the title of this website was the 'Democratic Underground' because it was willing to be open to the non-mainstream ideas, the counter-culture views, the anti-establishment ways of doing business. I hope my initial impressions remain true to form as this election continues into June.

DU has been a tremendous forum for the everyone, especially those that run counter to the establishment. Good on DU for that!!!


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CNN: The Worst Video Quality EVER, But Listen to the Words (Original Post) tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 OP
"Something is going on here". djean111 Mar 2016 #1
"Somethin's happenin' here....young people speakin' thier minds." Peregrine Took Mar 2016 #21
and tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #27
One of my all time favs! eom LittleGirl Mar 2016 #38
"Step out of line, The Man comes and takes you away..." lastlib Mar 2016 #33
So funny, I was just singing that song in my head. lark Mar 2016 #37
Possibly a Political Revolution noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #2
I'm watching MSNBC Politicalboi Mar 2016 #3
all of the folks who WERE anti-establishment, but then fell in line for the money tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #4
Dean's not even a politician raindaddy Mar 2016 #17
I'm disappointed in Dean. nt Duval Mar 2016 #18
likewise here tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #28
imagine if you will sublimecabbie Mar 2016 #42
Along with "disappointed in", I'd include sammythecat Mar 2016 #41
exactly how sublimecabbie Mar 2016 #43
Absolutely, should she actually sammythecat Mar 2016 #48
Its funny; Sanders does better against Trump than Hillary, 7962 Mar 2016 #34
One reason CNN's coverage has become less biased Stevepol Mar 2016 #5
Yes, I think he's a real progressive. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #40
make no mistake, CNN has been wildly pushing the anti-Sander's agenda all morning tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #6
Yes DU has allowed many views to be presented angstlessk Mar 2016 #7
Mark it down: March 26 2016, CNN finally notices. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #8
Wowsers. Bill Press just addressed the Big problem the democratic Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #9
Bernie exposed the DNC for what they are, a for-profit corporate arm of the MIC. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #46
K&R LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #10
HRC stayed in until June felix_numinous Mar 2016 #11
Exactly!! And she was ADAMANT about it too. nt 7962 Mar 2016 #35
K and R! bbgrunt Mar 2016 #12
Something is going on here... Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2016 #13
When I first came here... zentrum Mar 2016 #14
Well, this place WAS very different during... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #31
You tell 'em, Bill! nt valerief Mar 2016 #15
But so far, if you express your views on DU against the Establishment, YOU GET BANNED! DrBulldog Mar 2016 #16
DrBulldog Plucketeer Mar 2016 #22
Total bullshit denbot Mar 2016 #24
I'll give Skinner and this site a lot of credit for a private board tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #26
I agree and it's why I still contribute after ten years lostnfound Mar 2016 #32
yes rtracey Mar 2016 #36
oh really? this looks like hillary underground to you? mopinko Mar 2016 #44
K&R! nt Duval Mar 2016 #19
I just posted a comment about Biil P on General Discusssion - he is getting worked up. Me, too. Peregrine Took Mar 2016 #20
Petty and mean? Nah, they're just calling it... dchill Mar 2016 #25
I have a lot of FB friends in Europe. morningglory Mar 2016 #23
He's running against the stooges in the media too. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #29
"especially those that run counter to the establishment" redruddyred Mar 2016 #30
I don't see it as much that Bernie is running "against" the Party but rather for the glinda Mar 2016 #39
Exactly! oregonjen Mar 2016 #45
Exactly! Democrats turned their party over to wannabe Reaganites in 1980 and with that change whereisjustice Mar 2016 #47
I love this site. DU has been my sanity for 13 years. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #49

Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
21. "Somethin's happenin' here....young people speakin' thier minds."
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:47 PM
Mar 2016

I would love to sing that at a Bernie rally Its a great song.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
27. and
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:01 PM
Mar 2016



I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind


lastlib

(23,286 posts)
33. "Step out of line, The Man comes and takes you away..."
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016

Remember Kent State

One of the greatest songs of the Sixties!!

lark

(23,156 posts)
37. So funny, I was just singing that song in my head.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

Somethin's happening here
What is is not exactly clear
there's a man with a gun over there
telling us, we got to beware

------

Young people speakin' their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It's time to stop, hey, what's that sound, everybody look what's going down

This is just from memory, sorry if I got any of this wrong.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. I'm watching MSNBC
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

Makes me wanna

Howard Dean the paid politician to support Hillary says Bernie can't win the nomination. Bernie numbers against the GOP are meaningless. Howard Dean

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
4. all of the folks who WERE anti-establishment, but then fell in line for the money
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

to be fair, they have NO IDEA of the power of the internet and are now looking like the shills they are, and you will continue to see the grassroots push out the big money controlled politics for real-people politics and voters who want what's best for America, not for their corporate employer

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
17. Dean's not even a politician
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

He's a lobbyist for the health care industry. And the people who sign his pay checks are probably scared shitless Bernie's going to end their leeching off the public...

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
28. likewise here
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:46 PM
Mar 2016

his bought-and-paid-for commentaries are so disingenuous and his blanket defenses of false corporate narratives SO weak, that he has truly slipped into the 'Establishment Zone'. An ugly, ugly slide.

 

sublimecabbie

(14 posts)
42. imagine if you will
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

that Dean has never slipped into that zone, but rather he was there the whole time. If the Clintons, Bushes, and Obama taught me anything, it's that these are sociopaths who can tell a lie with the straightest of faces. I'm sure Dean was no candidate for the people.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
41. Along with "disappointed in", I'd include
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

the phrase "disgusted by" in describing my feelings toward him.

And to think I really believed in that guy at one time. Ugh!

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
48. Absolutely, should she actually
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

become President. They'll learn the hard way, but being able to say "I told you so" will be pitiful compensation for having lost the opportunity of a Sanders Presidency.

With all the information about her so readily available, how any reasonable person could not have, at the very least, serious, serious doubts about Hillary Clinton is truly beyond my comprehension. My feelings about her are very similar to my feelings about Howard Dean. I was once a huge fan of hers too. Then after the Iraq War vote there was great disappointment for me, after years more it turned to disgust. Should she win the nomination I will also feel anger. A lot of it. Anger that she should inflict herself on this country, and an even greater anger that she robbed us of the opportunity of having a real champion in the White House. I emphasize "real" champion. One who won't betray us, or one who won't roll over and stop fighting for us. Bernie isn't going to surprise anyone and suddenly become a corporatist, and though he will certainly face enormous resistance, he will not stop fighting for us. If it's the only option left, I believe he would make unprecedented use of the bully pulpit to make people understand what was truly in their best interests. He's been fighting for the weak, the unlucky, the powerless, and the vulnerable his whole life. He's not going to suddenly stop during his presidency.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. Its funny; Sanders does better against Trump than Hillary,
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:16 AM
Mar 2016

just like the other GOP candidates do better against Hillary than Trump. Yet both sides are (so far) picking the 2 least liked candidates. Its a very odd election year

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
5. One reason CNN's coverage has become less biased
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

may be Bill Press, seen here. He has the Bill Press Show of course on Free Speech TV every morning and his comments are usually right on the mark.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
6. make no mistake, CNN has been wildly pushing the anti-Sander's agenda all morning
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:15 PM
Mar 2016

and they think it isn't transparent as glass -- they have NO idea of the momentum they are up against

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
7. Yes DU has allowed many views to be presented
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:15 PM
Mar 2016

as long as they are NOT republican..

And once the person who becomes the candidate...get outa here if you are against our Democratic candidate!

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
9. Wowsers. Bill Press just addressed the Big problem the democratic
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

party is going to have to deal with--the fact that Bernie is NOT going to drop out. To paraphrase---this revolution or whatever you want to call it is real and the DNC had better find a way to deal with it because it will change the party.
Just, Wow. A voice of reason--

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
46. Bernie exposed the DNC for what they are, a for-profit corporate arm of the MIC.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

Manny talked about it before he was kicked off of DU.


felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
11. HRC stayed in until June
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:42 PM
Mar 2016

when running against Obama, (I can remember long after people were telling her to drop out), so how does she get off telling Bernie Sanders to drop out in March? Another inconsistency.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
14. When I first came here...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

….that's what I thought Democratic Underground meant too. Super progressive and thus labeled as subversive, by the mainstream Establishment. Took it as the Great Restoration.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
31. Well, this place WAS very different during...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:00 AM
Mar 2016

The Bush years...very subversive in a lot of ways. As soon as 2008 primaries got under way, things changed a lot.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
16. But so far, if you express your views on DU against the Establishment, YOU GET BANNED!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

So much for DU's "openness".

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
22. DrBulldog
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

Read my SIG line. Don't fret about being banned from certain cliques. They have a script and wear blinders while reading it.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
26. I'll give Skinner and this site a lot of credit for a private board
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

I could envision in any other business if momentum started to go against your own personal preferences (Skinner is pro-Hillary), it would be emotionally very easy to convince yourself to just start tweaking things around the edges to make it less-easy for opposing voices to be heard. He has done very, very little of that so it has been to his credit that the board is as 'DEMOCRATIC' as it has remained 'UNDERGROUND'. Just one look at MSNBC's coverage will tell you how influence from corporate folks at the top can EASILY shift the advantage away from what they don't want to see happen.

Again, Kudos to Skinner for his ability to put personal politics on the side and let the 'Democratic' part shine above all else.

lostnfound

(16,190 posts)
32. I agree and it's why I still contribute after ten years
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:48 AM
Mar 2016

I appreciate that about Skinner as wel.
If you follow the stated rules, you are generally okay. And technologically it is a very nice site (thank you Elad).

No prediction about the future, though - if it appears to half of us that "there's something rotten in Denmark" when the nominee is eventually chosen, a chasm will arise.

The establishment usually gets what the establishment wants.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
36. yes
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

Like the fact that I have been blocked from Bernie forums for asking position questions.....agree on the openness

mopinko

(70,215 posts)
44. oh really? this looks like hillary underground to you?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

please. this site is so pro bernie. people get banned by being assholes, not because they feel the bern.

Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
20. I just posted a comment about Biil P on General Discusssion - he is getting worked up. Me, too.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

Some of these panelists are really being petty and especially mean today.

Its a great day for Bernie and his supporters - don't rain on our parade with your picky little comments - he has gone a tremendous distance, as Bill said, give him credit. Or are you afraid HRC will be mad if you do?

morningglory

(2,336 posts)
23. I have a lot of FB friends in Europe.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:56 PM
Mar 2016

It is a fan forum for Martin Clunes. I posted today-"Dear Europe, bear with us. This will be over soon and we will be back to normal." One friend from the UK replied that a lot of her friends over there are sick of their prime minister and are hoping they will get a Bernie. I am hoping we will have a world-wide revolution.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
39. I don't see it as much that Bernie is running "against" the Party but rather for the
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

"soul" of the Party to bring it back into alignment with the original principles and Progressive values.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
47. Exactly! Democrats turned their party over to wannabe Reaganites in 1980 and with that change
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

we lost any representation for working families in the United States.

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
49. I love this site. DU has been my sanity for 13 years.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:12 PM
Mar 2016

As a strong Bernie supporter, I admire and am grateful for Skinner's reasonableness. Since he supports Hillary, being reasonable can't always be easy. I also appreciate how quick and easy it is to get the news because of the glitchless mechanics of this site. Everywhere else annoys me.

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