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Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:51 PM Mar 2016

What punishment is appropriate for a woman who chooses to get an "illegal abortion" . . .



In light of Donald Trump's support for punishing women who would opt for an abortion in the event it was made illegal, I thought it appropriate to repost this video from 8 years ago.

If you're unfamiliar with it, a film crew attended an anti-abortion rally some 8 years ago for the purpose of asking the demonstrators if, in the event abortion is again made illegal, what punishment would be appropriate for a woman who still chose to have one. The responses are eye opening, largely for illuminating that these people had never considered that aspect and were quite uncomfortable when confronted with it.

(Evidently, you need to go to YouTube to view the video. That's unfortunate, but worth it if you've never seen this.)
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What punishment is appropriate for a woman who chooses to get an "illegal abortion" . . . (Original Post) Journeyman Mar 2016 OP
The responses are truly eye opening. peace13 Mar 2016 #1
I don't that any of the men or the young children SheilaT Mar 2016 #5
I love that you had that conversation with your son. peace13 Mar 2016 #7
I am so sorry that your sisters SheilaT Mar 2016 #8
Thank you for your kind words! : ) peace13 Mar 2016 #9
These people have no critical thinking skills. Dumb as rocks. Damn religion. nt valerief Mar 2016 #2
Oh please stop abusing the intellectually challenged... zebonaut Mar 2016 #3
The non-thinking zealots on parade....nt 2naSalit Mar 2016 #4
A good example of not thinking things through. -none Mar 2016 #6
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
1. The responses are truly eye opening.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:15 PM
Mar 2016

I have always felt that most people picketing at clinics have had an abortion and were protesting out of guilt. So when you ask if the mother should be punished , that hits pretty close to home! I know several women who had abortions that became 'pro-life' afterward. It was as though they blamed the law for letting them get in trouble with God.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
5. I don't that any of the men or the young children
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:14 PM
Mar 2016

who also picket at clinics have had an abortion. Just a wild guess on my part.

But seriously, given that the vast majority of women who've had an abortion do not feel any guilt, it's my distinct impression that those who picket have simply never been faced with an unwanted pregnancy, or one with a fetus that won't survive or will be terribly handicapped, and so feel very comfortable judging others.

Personal story, only tangentially connected to abortion: My 28 year old son visited me a couple of weeks ago, and in the course of our many conversations, abortion came up. He is, as I am, totally pro-choice. I told him that because I was 38 when he was born, I was of an age where prenatal testing for Down Syndrome is recommended. I did not do any such testing. While I would not have chosen ahead of time to have a DS child, I was okay if that happened. He told me that he would absolutely not want to parent a DS child, and would want such a pregnancy aborted. I see this as simply an example of two people who have opposite takes on one specific situation, and as I said to him, Neither one of us is wrong.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
7. I love that you had that conversation with your son.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:51 PM
Mar 2016

That he was able to share those feelings with you is wonderful.
In response to your comment about men and young children....I'm not going to argue with you about the age of the young women and as for the males, obviously it would be aborting as a father...there pretty much had to be some sperm somewhere. My experience with abortion comes from my sisters and their experiences. Both ended up childless, born again religious and filled with complete remorse. I had to intervene when a church member on the New Beginning Team tried to visit my sister in the special care unit to delve into the problem. I don't really want to go deeper into this. These are my experiences and I stand by my opinion. It is such a sad thing that we have to revisit abortion over and over and that birth control is not readily available to avoid all of this heartache. Screw people who want to tell women what to do. We have been pushed back to the cave.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. I am so sorry that your sisters
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016

have had the experience they did. It seems as if their real problem is the religion, not the abortion. It does sound as if you've been very supportive of them throughout this entire thing, and that's a very good thing.

-none

(1,884 posts)
6. A good example of not thinking things through.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

A total lack of critical thinking of each and every anti-abortionist there.
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