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Bill Maher To Panel: ‘The Problem With Racism Is Matt Drudge’ (Original Post) romantico Jun 2012 OP
Pure GOP. That's what Rush and the tool in the Rose Garden were all about today. freshwest Jun 2012 #1
The cheap slur illegal Mosaic Jun 2012 #2
Note how it's coordinated on radio, tv, print media and online blogs, all on the same day. freshwest Jun 2012 #4
Talk about an understatement! 90-percent Jun 2012 #5
What Would Jello Do? Iggy Jun 2012 #6
Great post demwing Jun 2012 #7
Tanks! Iggy Jun 2012 #9
Speaking of Mr. Biafra 90-percent Jun 2012 #14
Thanks, Very Interesting Iggy Jun 2012 #15
Zappa books 90-percent Jun 2012 #16
LOL, Don't Stop Iggy Jun 2012 #17
The understatement is for the number of gentle readers who seem to take it all as gospel. freshwest Jun 2012 #13
Isn't that Jimmy Fallon dressed as a mariachi? yurbud Jun 2012 #12
Although it has been changed SoutherDem Jun 2012 #3
Feel like I need a shower after reading the comments on that site Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2012 #8
OK, and Iggy Jun 2012 #10
The Sludge Report has never been good for anything. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #11

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
2. The cheap slur illegal
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:21 AM
Jun 2012

Is all the tiny minds of the xenophobic idiots have as they crap in their pants over something, the lack of jobs, caused by the powerful oligarchy they fucking support! Freaking idiots, all they can do is call names. Grow the fuck up! Learn some respect for our neighbors in this hemisphere!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Note how it's coordinated on radio, tv, print media and online blogs, all on the same day.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:44 AM
Jun 2012

To make sure that a message of support for our neighbors and friends would not be heard for what it meant for the future.

Steve King: news print, suing Obama for for this temporary action.

Rush Limbaugh: radio program, claimed Obama had committed treason. Probably many more did the same thing.

Drudge and probably a thousand more: online blogs declaring the same;

Governor Brewer and other GOPig guvs, probably singing the same tune;

And the GOP congress saying the same;

I could go on, but the media does not favor the Democrats at all. These are given life and urgency, seeming to be more important than they are, because they come at the public from all sides.

Too much money in the wrong hands to make mischief against human beings. That's why it's so bad.

And I agree witj every word you said.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
5. Talk about an understatement!
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:56 AM
Jun 2012

"I could go on, but the media does not favor the Democrats at all"

Forgive the hyperbole, but that's kind of like saying the Nazi party of the late 30's did not favor the Jewish community.

I'm not in any way critical of your post. I agree with it, it's just that we Democrats/Liberals/Progressives have been demonized all over the place in our "liberal media" for so long, the "Liberals want to give your hard earned money to the lazy" meme is now accepted as fact in the collective American Consciousness.

The meme that we even have a "Liberal Media" is also infuriating!

These wealthy that have purchased our Democracy so they can be even more greedy have certainly done a great job over the last thirty years, haven't they? To what end?

My bumper sticker once again

OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE INFESTED WITH CORRUPT SOCIOPATHS

Thom Hartmann's been discussing this lately; We have human history, like the American Indians, that prove PROVE PROVE that humans can construct a just and fair and WAR-FREE society!

It is within our capacity as human beings to create a society where the opportunities for LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS are within the grasp of everyone! The current "I got mine and screw you" norms of modern America is not really the way we humans were designed to be! We're more social animals than predators, but the predatory class has taken over all our Institutions!

-90% Jimmy

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
6. What Would Jello Do?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:24 AM
Jun 2012

"that's kind of like saying the Nazi party of the late 30's did not favor the Jewish community".

Right. Look, we progressives/liberals get that lamestream media is chock full of anti
democratic propaganda-- and why is that? Simply because most (all?) of MSM is owned
by big corporations-- run by conservatives, most of whom are greedy arseholes who want
low taxes. The GOP gives them low taxes.

Criticizing/complaining about MSM is getting us nowhere. It's a waste of time-- they are not
going to stop the anti democratic propaganda. You can't "shame" them into it, forget it.

Jello Biafra: "Don't complain about the media, become the media!"

The answer is counter propaganda. We have to have better/smarter/more prolific
propaganda. Complaining about MSM does nothing in this regard.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
9. Tanks!
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:42 AM
Jun 2012

I've been lurking for some time.. had trouble registering for awhile, but
happy to be on board!

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
14. Speaking of Mr. Biafra
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:07 AM
Jun 2012

Yes, a big sloppy drooling DU welcome to you, A Democracy needs a well informed citizenry such as yourself to function properly.

Zappa is my hero and "the idol of my youth", so I like finding stuff he said and sharing that with my DU brethren. I wish I could find the quote about revolution in the 60's where he advocated using the systems that fucked things up to repair the system. He wanted to use television as a weapon to turn "democracy" back to more of what the Founding Fathers originally intended. He was a self described "Constitutional Fundamentalist", a term which I plagiarize all the time here on the DU.

I did stumble on this, pretty worthwhile if you have 14 minutes to spare.

http://wn.com/The_Industry_Part_78

Back when the Fox network first started, they were extremely experimental and risk-taking with their programming. So much so that they were developing a Zappa News Commentary Show called "Night School", which would have been anchored in part by Daniel Schorr. Well, like many Zappa projects, that fizzled and somehow morphed into either or both the Arsenio Hall Show and Joan Rivers was in the mix there, too. The Simpsons was borne of this era. (Matt Groening is a very hardcore Zappa fan) I think Ben Stiller, Michael Moore and even Julie Brown had Fox shows in this era. (I remember Jennifer Anniston on Julie Brown, dressed in a bikini in almost every scene she was in.)

Lastly, Zappa came to the aid of Mr. Biafra in the late 80's, when he was being persecuted by the American Legal System. Don't know the details of Biafra's legal problems, though.

Enjoy, and I enthusiastically welcome all you have to contribute to DU.

-90% Jimmy

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
15. Thanks, Very Interesting
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jun 2012

Info.. I have a copy of Zappa's auto-biography, totally hilarious, gonzo
stuff.

Zappa's fizzled out projects is proof one has to fail in order to succeed.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
16. Zappa books
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jun 2012

I stumbled onto a pdf of his whole book today doing google research on my above post.

There's a lot of Zappa books out there. I wore out my 1971 copy of David Walley's "No Commercial Potential", which Zappa hated.

Let's see - some of the ones I can remember include Candy Zappa's book about her older brother, which was nice. Other recent ones include "Zappa the Hard way", strictly about the 1988 Tour. I saw seven shows on this tour throughout the northeast, as he hadn't toured in over four years and I had become a rather rabid fan.

The most recent book, which I haven't finished yet, is by his English secretary of the late 60's and early 70's, Pauline Butcher. "Freak Out! My Life With Frank Zappa". This is possibly the most fantastic Zappa book out there, as it's a first person recollection of the Zappa household from 1968 to 1972. A helluva lot of stuff I never knew before and some great insight into Frank's often extremely eccentric way of thinking. It provides a lot of missing pieces to the puzzle that is Zappa.

Both books are nectar for a hardcore fan like me. Don't know if they would be nearly as appealing to a non-rabid fan, though.

When asked about the secret of his success, Zappa said; "First, don't stop. Second, keep going." As Bunk Gardner said of Frank in "Necessity is, the story of the Mothers of Invention", "Frank had the stamina of a bull." Frank's perseverance and faith in himself has been a life long inspiration for me. The clarity of his thinking and reasoning was so magnificent that self doubt simply was not an option.

I really gotta stop this Zappa fanboy stuff on DU. It's like I'm a 12 year old girl and Zappa is my Taylor Swift.

-jim

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
17. LOL, Don't Stop
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:10 AM
Jun 2012

jim, again, thanks for this info. I gotta check Amazon to see if Ms. Butcher's book is
available.

Good on you that you got to see Zappa live. Not sure how I missed Zappa concerts;
I grew up in the Chicago area and saw a lot of great bands "back in the day" including
Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" show-- phenomenal and unforgettable.
You may recall Alice Cooper started all of his tours then in Chicago-- typically playing
4-5 nites to sold out crowds. I took my 13 year old little brother to his "Welcome to
My Nightmare Tour" as a birthday present. i'll never forget, after his show ended, fans
refused to leave. there was a twenty minute raucus ovation... the band came out and did
"I'm Eighteen"... crowd went nuts.

I'd never seen that happen before, and have not seen it since.

LOL.. fanboy.. well, look at what's considered hot now.

And it's not by accident Roger Water's "The Wall" tour is selling out stadiums worldwide.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
3. Although it has been changed
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jun 2012

on the Fox website it had a picture of Latino teenagers who looked like they were handcuffed attached to the story.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
8. Feel like I need a shower after reading the comments on that site
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:41 AM
Jun 2012

Conservatives aren't even remotely trying to hide their racism these days.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
10. OK, and
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jun 2012

Many conservatives _are_ racist, I and I think all progressives get it.

But why don't we use that against them-- use it get people to the polls
to vote democratic?

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