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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:38 PM Apr 2016

Corporate Media Is Still Pretending that Bernie Sanders Has No Chance



It seems like the media is still pushing the narrative that Bernie Sanders has no shot at winning the Democratic nomination against powerhouse Hillary Clinton. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.
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Corporate Media Is Still Pretending that Bernie Sanders Has No Chance (Original Post) GoLeft TV Apr 2016 OP
#ReleaseTheReturms. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #1
Sanders is not going to be the Dem nominee: the math is not there lewebley3 Apr 2016 #5
#BecauseItsAllAboutThatMathNoTrouble NurseJackie Apr 2016 #13
It's there less for Cruz and Kasich but they still have a chance per the same media sources. Gore1FL Apr 2016 #17
I first heard about the "bandwagon effect" in journalism school Merryland Apr 2016 #2
The fastest way to the Bandwagon? ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #20
It's all a circus to you? Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #26
because he doesnt - he is out of caucus states saturnsring Apr 2016 #3
he doesn't need caucus states... he needs open primaries, his current momentum and Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #10
He doesn't even need an open primary, SheilaT Apr 2016 #14
"How many of her delegates skipped out ... in Nevada?" ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #22
Well, a whole lot of the Clinton delegates SheilaT Apr 2016 #23
his "momentum" is from the string of caucus states in which he does well else where not so much saturnsring Apr 2016 #19
Hillary does seem to do better when computers count votes. stillwaiting Apr 2016 #27
awwww is someone's candidate not doing so well saturnsring Apr 2016 #28
You are either disingenuous or naive to not admit that computer voting is not secure. stillwaiting Apr 2016 #29
and so are you if you think that is the only reason hillary is beating sanders saturnsring Apr 2016 #30
The point is there is no legitimacy to our election results. stillwaiting Apr 2016 #31
"general lack of enthusiasm for the BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #21
Hiillary is out of Southern red states Geronimoe Apr 2016 #16
Corporate Media has no credibilty Geronimoe Apr 2016 #4
Sanders supporters have no credibility lewebley3 Apr 2016 #6
I know we now have credibility just took a few months. But the media me paid for N/T PatrynXX Apr 2016 #8
freudian slip? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #9
Thank you we've always had credibility, which is what Bernie has lots of credibility! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #12
unfortunately, a lot of people aren't political junkies like people here, and get their political Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #11
There is only 1 news network on TV . . . aggiesal Apr 2016 #15
CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.... Maedhros Apr 2016 #18
Most people don't get their news from any media Palimpsestuous Apr 2016 #25
hence why you see Trump up and down PatrynXX Apr 2016 #7
Farron... There IS no media left on the television short of propaganda, dude... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #24
Reality has a Clinton bias. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #32

Gore1FL

(21,146 posts)
17. It's there less for Cruz and Kasich but they still have a chance per the same media sources.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

But for the sake of argument, do the math and show your work.

Thanks in advance!

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
2. I first heard about the "bandwagon effect" in journalism school
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

get people to believe it's a done deal & they'll hop on board to support a winner. It's disgusting the way this is being used by the Hillary campaign & media to drown out the obvious YUGE support for Bernie Sanders. But the more wins he stacks up the harder this bandwagon illusion is to maintain. The only bandwagon in town has Bernie on board & we're all in it for the ride!
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
10. he doesn't need caucus states... he needs open primaries, his current momentum and
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

the general lack of enthusiasm for the Hillary campaign.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
14. He doesn't even need an open primary,
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

given the amazing lack of enthusiasm on the part of the supposed Hillary supporters.

How many of her delegates skipped out on the next round of delegate selection the other day in Nevada? Enough to flip the delegate numbers between Bernie and Hillary.

Plus, younger voters aren't as wedded to the MSM, and they are turning out for Bernie is quite large numbers. Plus she's losing her iron grip on African American voters. Oh, and older women? I'm one, and all the older women I know who've said anything so far are all strong Bernie supporters.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
22. "How many of her delegates skipped out ... in Nevada?" ...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

... skipped? ...

... or, the count was rigged from the start? ...

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. Well, a whole lot of the Clinton delegates
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

never showed up for the second round. And considering that Clinton supporters running the county convention in Clark County tried to have all Sanders delegates declared alternates, you might want to re-ask that question about a rigged count.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
27. Hillary does seem to do better when computers count votes.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:28 AM
Apr 2016

On machines that are easily hackable and outlawed in other democracies.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
29. You are either disingenuous or naive to not admit that computer voting is not secure.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

Easily hacked. Super easy.

No transparency. Just like your candidate (and you?) likes it.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
31. The point is there is no legitimacy to our election results.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

You can enjoy mocking Sanders supporters to your beautiful heart's desire, but we both know it's true.

Which makes your taunts quite pathetic. Of course, your taunts would be pathetic even if our election system had integrity due to the vast difference between our two candidates.

U nasty, so Bye!! 😀

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
21. "general lack of enthusiasm for the
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary campaign" ... This explains why she is more than 2.5 million ahead in popular votes. Lack of enthusiasm. Good one.

According to RCP (their pledged delegate count is too much in HRC's favor methinks, but little matter), there are three caucuses remaining. One (WY), Bernie will likely win and the others (VI & Guam) are uncertain. But territorial caucuses have gone in Hillary's favor. Still, Hillary will get at least some delegates from these.

NY, MD, DE, CT, PA, KY, OR, NJ, NM & DC ALL have closed primaries where only registered Dems can vote. Hillary will do well to very well in most, if not all. OR is Bernie's best chance in this lot because of demographics. But since OR has a primary rather than a caucus, one should not see quite the same margins of victory as seen in some caucus states.

RI, WV & CA all have semi-closed primaries, which may mean slightly different things in those states. RI and WV could play out in Bernie's favor, but likely not with the margins of victory that he needs. Hillary will continue to pick up delegates even then. But demographics in CA - the biggest prize remaining - are primarily in Hillary's favor. Gov. Jerry Brown is also staunchly in her corner.

WI, IN, PR (another territory), MT and ND are the only states remaining with open primaries. WI & IN are the only two where fairly large numbers of delegates are at stake. Even if Bernie wins in both, the wins will have to be by double-digit margins for him to make any inroads whatsoever on Hillary's lead, especially after the big bloc of delegates represented by states with closed primaries voting in April.

SD has a semi-open primary. Demographics are in Bernie's favor there, although because it is a primary and not a caucus, the margin of victory will likely not be a blowout and Hillary will still get delegates.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html



 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. unfortunately, a lot of people aren't political junkies like people here, and get their political
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

info from the dreaded CNN and FoxNews and MSNBC

Palimpsestuous

(14 posts)
25. Most people don't get their news from any media
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:38 AM
Apr 2016

They get their news from conversations with friends and coworkers. They don't read papers or even listen much to radio, not for news anyway.

The way Farron uses language, it's pretty clear to me he watches a good deal of cable news because the language of their twisted narrative infects his own language as he attempts to disabuse us of the corporate narrative. See George Lakoff for more.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
24. Farron... There IS no media left on the television short of propaganda, dude...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

I have to believe that these people who lie in the name of securing a nominee are the LEAST secure in their media-based marketable gum-bumping jobs.

And ANOTHER THING I've got written all over my brain is... YOU PLAY THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME (examples, Truman over Dewey, Jets over the Colts, and the 1969 New York Mets).

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