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Hillary Clinton Releases Too-Big-To-Fail bank-loving, Anti-Bernie Attack Ad (Original Post) GreatGazoo Apr 2016 OP
Hills ads are just plain creepy yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #1
Sanders is a fraud: he has no workable plans: Hillary has workable plans and votes lewebley3 Apr 2016 #14
Okay, then what are Clinton's exact plans to deal with the banks? RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #21
Go to her Web site: its all there; she even deals with dark money: economist have lewebley3 Apr 2016 #23
Link please? n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #25
She's wrong to call young people "dupes" Baobab Apr 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #27
Yes, I believe you are correct yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #30
This whole debunked smear depends on not knowing what the Fed is... AlbertCat Apr 2016 #2
Even if it was remotely true that Sanders, with 32 years in elected office, doesn't know how, GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #4
"Sanders represents your interests, but he's not very good at it. We, on the other hand ... Scuba Apr 2016 #6
32 years Sanders is a talker and an empty suit lewebley3 Apr 2016 #15
Unlike Kerry, who I think waited too long to thrust back, thinking it was too unbelievable Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #3
The Clinton Campaign is baiting Bernie to reveal his NY Debate platform. I hope to see an Ad about DhhD Apr 2016 #5
Adding: What was Clinton's NEW version of the 1933 HOLC-Home Owner's Loan Corporation? DhhD Apr 2016 #9
Comment from YouTube Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #7
Sanders is very light on any plans: He has know idea how to break up the banks lewebley3 Apr 2016 #16
Okay, then what are Clinton's exact plans to deal with the banks? n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #22
Yes florida08 Apr 2016 #8
Did Hillary ever tell us how SHE would break up the banks if at all???? Nope zebonaut Apr 2016 #10
Clinton doesn't promise to "break up the big banks." Nitram Apr 2016 #12
Hillary has a great plan to regulate the banks that most economist agreed with lewebley3 Apr 2016 #17
The ad criticizes Bernie's lack of a plan, not breaking up big banks. Nitram Apr 2016 #11
No its was totally true: Sanders didn't have any ideas about how to break up banks lewebley3 Apr 2016 #20
The headline accuses Clinton of loving banks that are too big to fail. Nitram Apr 2016 #32
Hillary is a joke when it comes to banking Geronimoe Apr 2016 #13
Hillary has the strongest workable plan when it comes to the banks lewebley3 Apr 2016 #18
Workable is the key word Geronimoe Apr 2016 #33
Sanders doesnt have a plan lewebley3 Apr 2016 #35
The speeches were privately paid for: and you want a double standard for her lewebley3 Apr 2016 #19
wtf do speeches have to do with taxes RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #24
Sanders is a hippo when it comes to taxes: he obligated to release them: just like Hillary lewebley3 Apr 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #34
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
14. Sanders is a fraud: he has no workable plans: Hillary has workable plans and votes
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:54 PM - Edit history (1)

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
21. Okay, then what are Clinton's exact plans to deal with the banks?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

Did she ever put that out there, or are you going to pull something out of your posterior, or from the thin air?

So, either tell us her specific plans, or keep quiet, because she has no plans!

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
23. Go to her Web site: its all there; she even deals with dark money: economist have
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:37 PM
Apr 2016

given her plan a thumbs up.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
31. She's wrong to call young people "dupes"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

I like the iceberg analogy.

Bernie Sanders is the only one saying we've got to change course.

Hillary has something she needs to tell us- her husband's Administration tried to lock us in to bad policy- with multiple trade deals

BUT THEY DIDN'T TELL THE COUNTRY.

So its illegitimate.

Response to lewebley3 (Reply #14)

Response to yourpaljoey (Reply #1)

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
2. This whole debunked smear depends on not knowing what the Fed is...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:00 AM
Apr 2016

.... or what's in Dodd-Frank. It depends on lo-info.

Will Hillary be making a Willy Horton ad next?

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
4. Even if it was remotely true that Sanders, with 32 years in elected office, doesn't know how,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016

it still doesn't argue against the goal of breaking up big banks.

Sanders goals are so popular that they can't even do an attack ad without turning people on to Sanders. That's probably why strawman (distorting Sanders' positions) is their favorite counter.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. "Sanders represents your interests, but he's not very good at it. We, on the other hand ...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

... are exquisitely skilled at putting the screws to you for our own benefit."

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. Unlike Kerry, who I think waited too long to thrust back, thinking it was too unbelievable
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:03 AM
Apr 2016

to take seriously, Bernie needs to make this an example in his stump speech.

Great report!

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
5. The Clinton Campaign is baiting Bernie to reveal his NY Debate platform. I hope to see an Ad about
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie's history since the 1990's on the consequences of deregulating Wall Street.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/5/6/bernie-sanders-proposes-breaking-up-too-big-to-fail-banks.html
snip
“I was one of the leading opponents of the efforts of Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers, who all told us how wonderful it would be if we deregulated Wall Street back in the 1990s,” he said.

Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1987 until 2006, was a Ronald Reagan appointee; Sanders left unmentioned that Rubin and Summers both served as Treasury Secretary under President Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton’s husband. But he made the critique more explicitly in a May 1 interview with the Washington Post.

“I’ve known Hillary for 25 years, and I like and respect Hillary. I think it is fair to say that when the industry was deregulated by Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan during the Clinton administration, and the Secretary has received a lot of support from Wall Street, I think it is fair to say there might be a tendency to be less than vigorous in standing up to their incredible wealth and power,” he told the Post.

A spokesman for the Clinton campaign declined to comment regarding whether the candidate supports breaking up “too big to fail” institutions. more at link



http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/break-up-the-big-banks


http://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanderss-bill-would-break-big-banks/
Now we see why Grayson is being attacked in Florida-its a strategy to help Clinton win New York delegates. And its revenge fro Grayson's endorsement of Sanders.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
9. Adding: What was Clinton's NEW version of the 1933 HOLC-Home Owner's Loan Corporation?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008

For the Subtitle, Politicians-Scroll about one third the way down to see photograph of Sanders and Obama an read about Clinton's version of HOLC.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
7. Comment from YouTube
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

"Saying Bernie is light on substance is like saying Chris Christie is light on a buffet."

florida08

(4,106 posts)
8. Yes
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie is correct and does know what he's talking about. But unfortunately most people don't know shit from shinola. That's why these ignorant ads work on both sides work of the aisle. They're talking to


Nitram

(22,822 posts)
12. Clinton doesn't promise to "break up the big banks."
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

She proposes better and smarter regulation. From her web site:

Impose a risk fee on the largest financial institutions. Banks and financial companies would be required to pay a fee based on their size and their risk of contributing to another financial crisis.

Close the Volcker Rule’s hedge fund loophole. The Volcker Rule prohibits banks from making risky trading bets with taxpayer-backed money—one of the core protections of the post-financial crisis Wall Street reforms. However, under current law these banks can still invest billions through hedge funds, which are exempt from this rule. Hillary would close that loophole and strengthen the law.

Discourage excessive risk-taking by making senior bankers accountable. Senior managers should lose some or all of their bonus compensation when a large bank suffers losses that threaten its overall financial health.

Make sure no firm is ever too big and too risky to be managed effectively. Hillary’s plan would give regulators more authority to force overly complex or risky firms to reorganize, downsize, or break apart.

Tackle financial dangers of the “shadow banking” system. Hillary’s plan will enhance transparency and reduce volatility in the “shadow banking system,” which includes certain activities of hedge funds, investment banks, and other non-bank financial companies.

Impose a tax on high-frequency trading. The growth of high-frequency trading has unnecessarily placed stress on our markets, created instability, and enabled unfair and abusive trading strategies. Hillary would impose a tax on harmful high-frequency trading and reform rules to make our stock markets fairer, more open, and transparent.

Hillary would also hold both corporations and individuals on Wall Street accountable by:

Prosecuting individuals when they break the law. Hillary would extend the statute of limitations for prosecuting major financial frauds, enhance whistleblower rewards, and provide the Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission more resources to prosecute wrongdoing.

Holding executives accountable when they are responsible for their subordinates’ misconduct. Hillary believes that when corporations pay large fines to the government for violating the law, those fines should cut into the bonuses of the executives who were responsible for or should have caught the problem. And when egregious misconduct happens on an executive’s watch, that executive should lose his or her job.

Holding corporations accountable when they break the law. As she enhances individual accountability, Hillary will make sure that corporations don’t treat penalties for breaking the law as merely a cost of doing business, so that we can put an end to the patterns of corporate wrongdoing that we see too often today.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
17. Hillary has a great plan to regulate the banks that most economist agreed with
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016


Sanders has nothing as he proved in the interview with the Daily
News.

Sander is just full of himself: he doesn't have any workable ideas

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
11. The ad criticizes Bernie's lack of a plan, not breaking up big banks.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

Let's be honest, the headline is totally bogus.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
32. The headline accuses Clinton of loving banks that are too big to fail.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

She does not. But she believes Bernie doesn't have a clear and pragmatic plan for shutting down the TBTF banks.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
13. Hillary is a joke when it comes to banking
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

She won't even trust the American voters with her Goldman Sachs speeches.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
19. The speeches were privately paid for: and you want a double standard for her
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders is withholding his taxes which are public: Hillary
has posted her taxes on line every year.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
24. wtf do speeches have to do with taxes
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton said that she would reveal her speeches, when everyone else did. Well every other DEMOCRATIC candidate did, and she is still holding out.

Response to GreatGazoo (Original post)

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