Well that is not surprise. The real question is "out the window because she is innocent or because it is being covered up?"

I'm convinced that Hillary supporters would insist on the latter.

Only Clinton devotees think this is nothing. The rest of the country feel differently (in varying degrees).

by the FBI. Shit gets real when the FBI calls in HRC's aids, because up until this point--Clinton and her team really didn't know where the FBI was going with this investigation or how serious this is for HRC.

I guarantee you that after her aids interviewed with the FBI, they most certainly do know now.

The LA Times reported in March that the FBI had all ready contacted Clinton's people to let them know that they would be calling to arrange interviews with Clinton's aids.

We saw Obama out putting a positive spin on this (which is really bizarre and out of character for him) and we see Carville, one of the big-dog establishment operatives who is a Hillary mouthpiece.

I think all of this jockeying for position is a sign that these interviews with her aids didn't go so well--and now everyone in the Clinton camp understands just how serious this is for Hillary.

Why else would everyone be climbing out of the woodwork to defend her, especially the President!?

Like fools, the Clintons believe that they can thwart this with a few talking points.

Team Clinton.

Thanks for the thread, OxQQme.

Hardcore Clintonites didn't really want a Dem to win in '04. They were eyeing her run in '08.

And his b of a wife.

That's what all media did. No questions asked.

The media should be fully ignored in this country until some truth takes hold. Nothing they say is true and even Maddow and Olberman, who liberals love for some reason, are in fact partisian hacks.

knows the damn issues as well or better than any opponent.

Hard to find. Not necessarily great for everyone else, but it's the kind of friend I've only found once.

Reliving the 90s?

That would be a bitch

Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Cheney, and many others including the President have many different kinds of servers at their residences. This is a great way to protect against spoofing by other countries. It is not a very public association and nor should it be due to the sensitive nature of the information being disseminated. When it comes to these matters it is usually left to some very experienced military tech who knows exactly how to converge all communication directly from satellites around the world. What no one is talking about is that nothing is totally deleted. There are specific programs that allow one to re-engage whatever information that was deleted and bring it back fully. The truly only way to wipe clean an HDD is to degausse it which would be the total destruction of the HDD by magnetism and that would be noticed and brought to light.

understood that Powell & the others at times used 3rd party email (hotmail, etc.). However, I've not seen any report that they ran a private email server out of their residence...

that SOME things not be totally deleted. It's been in media that the government has been trying to recover whatever it can recover. However, that is irrelevant. Deletion was the intent.

The amount of work she has imposed on the Department of State and the FBI at taxpayer expense is staggering.

Again, links on the private servers and the wiping of same by Condi and Powell, please. I watched an interview with Powell on this and your post directly contradicts things he said on national TV. Your comment about miltary involvement is new to me, too.

I cannot see a woman who is not terribly tech savy sneaking around doing all of this technical stuff and fooling her tech support. And if the State department is not giving the Secretary of State tech support they are insane and stupid. Everybody acts as if Hillary ran the world single handed and did everything herself. Just listen to Ken Starr's testimony before the committee when he was asking for Clinton's impeachment and you know the whole thing was a setup. And yet, so many young people believe the propaganda.

something else. Then again, both Clintons have done that more than once, so why not their surrogate?

Cloud the water then you can get away with anything. Especially if the media is working on your behalf. This bullshit has been going on since the Carter days.

Let's just say, they should have cancelled every race that day. It was brutal.

Apparently, thoroughbreds are not mudders.

Sorry, I can't focus now.

sense of speaking truth.

It looks different on Fox than it does on ABC but that is only part of the camouflage.

Next they'll be pimping Martha Roby.

I don't watch this show and am no fan of anyone on there, but Carville never shut up! He just keeps talking a mile a minute, over anyone else speaking and it ends up being just a bunch of babble! I think most of what any of them are saying is garbage but he was really over the top. What a waste of the airways!

...I failed to see where Morning Joe Hosts lose it with Carville???????

Always has been. Very effective at times, and when he's helping your candidate, you love it. But he's still political scum. He has no principles and no conscience -- which is probably why he and the Clintons get along so well.

Carville

resigned to letting the GOP run the show for decades on end. He is pretty much useless in any other regard, but he did have a big role to play in Clintons 92 general election. 24 years later he dont seem to have aged much. He just seem even more out of place on this planet. Not sure what to make of him.

That is off couse where the wheels really came off. Im just trying to add a bit of context and nuance. This was not just Carvilles or Clintons doing. Whenever an elected candidate is wrong, you need to take a look at the voters too. That would be true at some level today too.

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Why on earth would Carter's loss to Reagan "require" a purging of liberals? Carter was pro-civil rights, but otherwise decidedly not liberal. Mondale was a centrist.

What required purging of liberals were conservadems, most Southern white male conservadems, who, after several things done by Democrats from Truman to LBJ that were pro-civil rights, were having a hard time getting votes in their Southern home states, Southern votes having formerly been a "gimme" for Democratic politicians.

For nuance and context. take a look at these threads and the sources cited in them. Look at the replies as well as the OP's, especially on the first thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778825 (This Ain't 1972)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778873 ("What about Mondale," indeed: 1976 to 1980)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778872 ("What about Mondale?" indeed: Candidate Reagan)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779277 ("What about Mondale?" indeed: Walter Mondale)

That said, what does it have to do with the fact that Carter, the person most affected by Carter's loss, did not lose his integrity after his loss? Blaming Carville's dishonesty on Carter's loss seems odd to me, especially since the loss did not cause Carter to lose his. Sorry.

Simple misunderstanding. Should have used block quote...

Well, you got some good links anyway. Who knows? They may come in handy one day.

But then, I don't understand your comment about voters.

so what is the purpose of having him on?

I AM SICK OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enough of the Bush clan, enough of the Clinton clan. One in the same.

LET'S MOVE ON for god's sake.

Just what I was going to add. If she was in WH, that is all the f***ing media/repukes would wind up spending their time: investigating everything and not accomplish anything for the rest of us. Thats exactly what would happen.

have the nerve to question anyone else.

isn't playing out exactly like he thought.

BUt, I doubt that she personally deleted too many emails. Isn't it established that various assistants did the subjective deleting? I can see this scenario: "go ahead and delete all emails to Chelsea and bill and any with the word "wedding". Also any to any of my relatives . What else? Tax. Info, and anything not related to work at State.
When investigating 9/11, did anyone ask to see every email from Cheney, or bush ? Every email?
My recollection is requests for "pertinent emails, not every email sent over years.