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agracie

(950 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:19 PM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton and Bill de Blasio make a cringeworthy “colored people time” joke at New York...

...Charity Event.


"For the uninitiated CPT is an acronym for colored people time, an old stereotype African-Americans have employed in jest amongst each other to excuse tardiness. Unfortunately, I found out on Monday that the shorthand CPT is no longer just an inside joke, but such a commonplace referral that even Hillary Clinton and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio are publicly joking about the term."



http://www.salon.com/2016/04/11/watch_hillary_clinton_and_bill_de_blasio_make_a_cringeworthy_colored_people_time_joke_at_new_york_city_charity_event/





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Hillary Clinton and Bill de Blasio make a cringeworthy “colored people time” joke at New York... (Original Post) agracie Apr 2016 OP
Well that went over like a dead fish. TM99 Apr 2016 #1
It's offensive and outrageous with the deep, violent racism rising daily in this country appalachiablue Apr 2016 #28
Yes, it is was. TM99 Apr 2016 #30
Lower: like pus that infects the mucous that cruds up the fungus that feeds on the dead fish. Bodych Apr 2016 #38
They are politicians: not profeesonal entertainer: lighten up lewebley3 Apr 2016 #76
politician humor redruddyred Apr 2016 #2
It seemed staged, therefore it was given forethought - which makes it even worse ! agracie Apr 2016 #33
It was staged. The delivery could not have seemed less natural if they tried. merrily Apr 2016 #55
That joke would guarantee a hide on DU. arcane1 Apr 2016 #3
no it wouldn't redruddyred Apr 2016 #4
The OP would guarantee a lock in GD. KamaAina Apr 2016 #22
Locked for being a P discussion in GD instead of being in GDP. eom Festivito Apr 2016 #47
Well that was awkward. n/t npk Apr 2016 #5
Will the real Hillary, please stand up. phazed0 Apr 2016 #6
like trying to talk about the peanut gallery as a term PatrynXX Apr 2016 #8
Same here sarge43 Apr 2016 #13
All that was missing was the watermelon, banjo, 'loose shoes' & Minstrel Show. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #20
Yes, it was shorthand for all that. zentrum Apr 2016 #27
Faux-hip 'fans' need to be jerked up into reality & history, fast. Same for Neo-Nazi hipsters (?). appalachiablue Apr 2016 #32
I heard "cautious politician time." What did you hear? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #7
That was the "punchline" of the joke. If you missed it, it was because it wasn't funny. phazed0 Apr 2016 #9
I think maybe only desperate Bernie Bros heard something more. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #10
You're good at acting naive on the internets Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #16
The mayor said CP Time. Hillary said Cautious politician time. pangaia Apr 2016 #23
It may be thoughtless but it is hardly "sick".We've all been guilty virgogal Apr 2016 #42
Hillary does it every day, even when it is in the script. pangaia Apr 2016 #43
Hahaha! Bangbangdem Apr 2016 #51
No, the black guy onstage with them heard it and voiced his disapproval. agracie Apr 2016 #34
The black guy onstage? oberliner Apr 2016 #41
No. retrowire Apr 2016 #35
exactly Locrian Apr 2016 #44
Those who are out of touch would think it's hilarious. retrowire Apr 2016 #46
Well, how clever and original, chervilant Apr 2016 #49
What? Bangbangdem Apr 2016 #50
i saw bill point his finger in hillary's general direction redruddyred Apr 2016 #65
Are you fucking kidding me??????? liberalnarb Apr 2016 #73
This "bernie-bro" is a grandmother of four me b zola Apr 2016 #81
The word you are seeking is "obtuse" Android3.14 Apr 2016 #26
Yeah, well, chervilant Apr 2016 #48
Na, this is Not cool but tasteless, offensive garbage said while in our highly racist, appalachiablue Apr 2016 #11
Bet you a dollar the corp media will never show this Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #14
They have to and need to expose this kind of ugly insider 'Charity fundraiser reality'... appalachiablue Apr 2016 #24
I didn't have a clue what it meant. I'm guessing one needs to live with that kind of Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #19
This can't be put on whites who may live around and condone racist language and action. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #45
I read in the Salon article he is an actor from the play "Hamilton". agracie Apr 2016 #36
Servile black prop actor? oberliner Apr 2016 #56
How many people who see this skit realize that Odom is a professional actor? appalachiablue Apr 2016 #57
Everyone in the audience oberliner Apr 2016 #58
That still doesn't make it right, for high level public officials to particpate in something appalachiablue Apr 2016 #59
The Inner Circle show is a tradition dating back to 1923 oberliner Apr 2016 #60
Well That Does It AND Changes Everything! I can't count the number of plays I've read appalachiablue Apr 2016 #61
Do you not understand what the event was? oberliner Apr 2016 #62
A performance at The Globe? No? Got it, a roast, parodies, skits, etc. Doesn't change a thing appalachiablue Apr 2016 #63
I am just trying to provide context that might be helpful oberliner Apr 2016 #64
I got 'the broader context' of the event up front. Again, hope you realize the wide appalachiablue Apr 2016 #68
Gotta wonder Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #67
No politician would have touched an asinine inside-elite theater ditty like that now or appalachiablue Apr 2016 #72
Oh, isn't she just so cute? Duval Apr 2016 #15
They can get away with it because polls show that more than 2/3 of the people of color . . . DrBulldog Apr 2016 #17
So you say "2/3 of the people of color" show "such unbelievable ignorance"... SunSeeker Apr 2016 #39
no but you are redruddyred Apr 2016 #66
Awww those poor unfortunate minorities, if only they were as smart as you. giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #54
Hear that uncomfortable silence? Android3.14 Apr 2016 #18
It has Goldman Sachs rolling on the floor Geronimoe Apr 2016 #21
Wow. Way to Patronize. zentrum Apr 2016 #25
Dammit Bill maindawg Apr 2016 #29
I wonder how many southern AA's wish they could change their vote Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #31
The tragic truth that I've been pondering for months. What fraud and a shame... appalachiablue Apr 2016 #37
She's a horrible candidate... AzDar Apr 2016 #40
Sure... realmirage Apr 2016 #52
Oh, goodie! chervilant Apr 2016 #71
HRC displays yet again more presidential gravitas. chapdrum Apr 2016 #53
"Cringe-worthy" as a descriptor Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #69
Anyone else object to the gold coat? Looks like they melted gold... Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #70
Appropriate for an empress. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #78
Curious this did not happen before South Carolina! Helen Borg Apr 2016 #74
Excellent point, wouldn't That have been a Clinton awakening! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #75
I want her labs, from her concussion. This was just too stupid. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #77
This kind of sickness is what is wrong with society today. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #79
Another Made-Up Story with No Legs . . . Gamecock Lefty Apr 2016 #80

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
28. It's offensive and outrageous with the deep, violent racism rising daily in this country
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

as I wrote below...And certain politicians are in NO position to be involved with this kind of trash, insider private charity event or not, especially when running for high public office.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
8. like trying to talk about the peanut gallery as a term
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

no I didn't know it was a racist term till someone said it was.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
20. All that was missing was the watermelon, banjo, 'loose shoes' & Minstrel Show.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:18 PM
Apr 2016

No need to 'say' slow, late, lazy and simple-minded. It was clear with this trash 'joke' ?!
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- Stereotypes of African Americans: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Stereotypes and generalizations about African Americans and their culture have evolved within American society dating back to the colonial years of settlement, particularly after slavery became a racial institution that was heritable. The early blackface minstrel shows of the 19th century portrayed blacks as joyous, naive, superstitious, ignorant, and musically inclined—characteristics related to the way slaveholders in earlier years believed them to be.

Such scholars as Patricia A. Turner note "stereotyping objects in popular culture that depict blacks as servile, primitive, or simpleminded and explains how the subtle influences of such seemingly harmless images reinforce anti-black attitudes".[1] As with every other identifiable group, stereotypes continue today. African Americans are often portrayed as violent, lazy and very religious. They also are portrayed as having a love of fried chicken, watermelon, corn bread, Kool-Aid, waffles, sweet tea, and grape drink.[2]
The idea of race in the United States is based on physical characteristics and skin color. It played an essential part in shaping American society even before the nation existed independently.[3] The perception of black people has been closely tied to their place in the social strata of the United States.[4]
Historical archetypes[edit]



~ Cover to an early edition of Jump Jim Crow sheet music (c. 1832) ~

- Main article: Blackface
Minstrel shows portrayed and lampooned black people in stereotypical and often disparaging ways, as ignorant, lazy, buffoonish, superstitious, joyous, and musical. Blackface is a style of theatrical makeup that originated in the United States, used to effect the countenance of an iconic, racist American archetype — that of the darky or coon. White blackface performers in the past used burnt cork and later greasepaint or shoe polish to blacken their skin and exaggerate their lips, often wearing woolly wigs, gloves, tailcoats, or ragged clothes to complete the transformation.
*The best known stock character of this sort is Jim Crow, featured in innumerable stories, minstrel shows, and early films.
- Sambo, Golliwog, and pickaninny[edit]
Main articles: Sambo (racial term), Gollywog and Pickaninny
The Sambo stereotype gained notoriety through the 1898 children's book The Story of Little Black Sambo by Helen Bannerman. It told the story of a boy named Sambo who outwitted a group of hungry tigers. "Sambo" refers to black men that were considered very happy, usually laughing, lazy, irresponsible, or carefree. This depiction of black people was displayed in films of the early 20th century. The original text suggested that Sambo lived in India, but this fact may have escaped many readers. The book has often been considered to be a slur against Africans,[5] and "Sambo" as a slur has certainly been used this way, though the US restaurant chain Sambo's, surviving until 1982, used iconography more in tune with a Jungle Book view of 19th-century India.

Gollywog is a similarly enduring caricature, most often represented as a blackface doll, and dates to American children's books of the late 19th century. The character found great favor among the Whites of Great Britain and Australia as well, into the late 20th century. Notably, as with Sambo, the term as an insult crosses ethnic lines; the derived Commonwealth English epithet Wog is applied more often to people from the Arabian Peninsula and Indian Subcontinent than to Africans, though "Golly dolls" still in production mostly retain the look of the stereotypical blackface minstrel.
The term pickaninny, reserved for children, has a similarly broadened pattern of use; while it originated in a Portuguese word for 'small child' in general, it was applied especially to African-American children in the United States, then later to Australian Aboriginal children. Although not usually used alone as a character name, the pickaninny became a mainstream stock character in White-dominated fiction, music, theater and early film in the United States and beyond. *Continued, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
27. Yes, it was shorthand for all that.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

This faux-hip, profoundly ignorant, tone deaf "joke" is mind boggling on every level. A completely failed pander with racist underpinnings they are so unaware of—Good God—what do such people say in private if this is their public "best"?

Response to Gomez163 (Reply #10)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
23. The mayor said CP Time. Hillary said Cautious politician time.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:30 PM
Apr 2016

She didn't even have the gumption to criticize him for it.

SICK !!! Really really, sick,

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
42. It may be thoughtless but it is hardly "sick".We've all been guilty
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

of saying things that we wish we hadn't said.

Human nature.

 

Bangbangdem

(140 posts)
51. Hahaha!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Apr 2016

She is running for president. She is beholden to a higher standard of conduct. Correct me if I am wrong. And in this case, does insulting millions qualify as one just being a victim of their nature? I ask you.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
35. No.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:23 PM
Apr 2016

You see, the joke "Cautious Politician Time" cannot work without the tongue in cheek racist tension of the joke itself.

Sure you can say it's all fine because they never said "Colored People Time" but the joke only works because of that racist term itself. All in all, the joke certainly pulls from a racist term and thus, the joke can't work without being racist.

So... sorry, it can't be explained any other way.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
44. exactly
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

A piss poor calculated attempt at edgy (?) humor. Went over like a lead balloon...

They just can't be what they want - it's like watching business people pretend to be hip, or christian rock bands trying to be cool. It just doesn't work because it's so calculated as fake.

Which brings up WHY the F* did they try it? Who the F** ever thought that would be funny?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
46. Those who are out of touch would think it's hilarious.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

And that kind of humor is dangerous ground for a potential president to be walking on... But she did it. *facepalm*

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
49. Well, how clever and original,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

trotting out that misleading and disingenuous meme that originated with your candidate's campaign: "bernie bros." Welcome to my IL.

 

Bangbangdem

(140 posts)
50. What?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:12 PM
Apr 2016

The words I would say to you aren't racist. But would certainly impune your intelligence. And I would surly be banned for even coming one tenth of the way in the direction that these two did, in terms of insulting people.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
73. Are you fucking kidding me???????
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

I can't believe how hypocritical Hillary supporters are being over this. I can't imagine the backlash if Sarandon had said CP time.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
81. This "bernie-bro" is a grandmother of four
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

When my son was being called an "n" word everyday at school there were those who said that I was making a big deal out of nothing. When I was cautioned that my son should be careful because they still had sundowners law on the books I was also told that I was hearing a threat that wasn't there.

Hillary & Bill understand the issues facing people of color as much as it suits them to gain votes/favor, for "better" or worse. "Better" being Bill playing the sax and Hillary doing the Nae-Nae Whip. For worse is them employing the Southern Strategy when searching for white working class votes.

The Clinton campaign is disgusting and gives not one whit about the problems of real people.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
48. Yeah, well,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:55 PM
Apr 2016

even if you're not familiar with the racial slur inherent in "cpt" or "cp" time, denying or minimizing the racism in this offensive "joke" is indefensible.

Good luck supporting a candidate who continues to act in manners unbecoming.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
11. Na, this is Not cool but tasteless, offensive garbage said while in our highly racist,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
Apr 2016

violent country blacks and PoC are being openly attacked, assaulted, arrested and incarcerated in Prisons daily? Outrageous.

This the very night after Bill insulted and blasted BLM protestors in Philly claiming they were defending child Super-Predators? WTH!?

Is "Stop and Frisk" cool and 'funny' now too?

This behavior and talk is inexcusable, same with the servile black 'prop' actor being used in this racist 'skit'.

Unbelievable. James Crow Jr. on full display. For shame.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
24. They have to and need to expose this kind of ugly insider 'Charity fundraiser reality'...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary can afford this in these times, with her and Bill's attitude toward BLM activists, her Goldwater, 'Sen. Anti-Civil Rights Act' membership, and the Clinton's Super-Predator 1994 Crime Bill and Welfare Deform Act of 1996? Not in anyone's book.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
19. I didn't have a clue what it meant. I'm guessing one needs to live with that kind of
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

casual racism on a regular basis to see the funny in it.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
45. This can't be put on whites who may live around and condone racist language and action.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

Or black people who might privately co-op historically racist terms born of centuries of oppression. Some marginalized groups do that, but it is Not appropriate or OK for others, especially persons running for high government office to entertain this kind of Not sly, but open bigotry as humor. Don't know how anyone can't see what this is, so it needs clarification for any who might and for the record. Unacceptable.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
56. Servile black prop actor?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

Are you serious?

Leslie Odom Jr. is one of the stars of the biggest show on Broadway right now.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
57. How many people who see this skit realize that Odom is a professional actor?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

He's a second to the two principals, is attired in historic costume, hence 'servile' avec quotes. And he voiced objection. So it's clear to most excluding a small group of elites and those familiar with the context. Highly offensive and in very poor taste regardless.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
58. Everyone in the audience
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

The title of the show was "Shamilton" and included a spoof of the Hamilton - Burr feud from the play, relating the characters to DeBlasio and Cuomo.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
59. That still doesn't make it right, for high level public officials to particpate in something
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

like this in these serious, violent times. We're a long, long way, if ever from that kind of sick, offensive levity, at the expense of blacks and people of color, too many who are discriminated against, marginalized, abused, and criminalized. The viewers who now see this video clip in the media know nothing of the play story and it is irrelevant to their lives and the reality of our extremely racist, brutal society.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
60. The Inner Circle show is a tradition dating back to 1923
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016
The Inner Circle show is a tradition dating back to 1923. It is staged by present and former City Hall journalists. The first two musical comedy acts lampoon the mayor and other city, state and federal politicians, and the mayor answers in kind in the third act. About $100,000 is raised for charity.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/hillary-clinton-drops-in-at-inner-circle-show-needles-mayor-1.11673400

The Newsday article about this year's event did not even make mention of the joke in question.

The article does mention this:

In the mayor’s rebuttal act, Burr — played by Leslie Odom Jr. from the Broadway show’s cast — coaches de Blasio to boast about his accomplishments in hip-hop style. After several stumbles, the mayor catches on: “I’m the illest mayor to run New York.”

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
61. Well That Does It AND Changes Everything! I can't count the number of plays I've read
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:01 PM
Apr 2016

and attended in New York, London, Washington and many other places. Two family members studied drama and acting, with pupils of Lee Strasburg, and actors Eli Wallach, Oliver Platt, Glenn Close and others. The relatives appeared in productions of the works of Shakespeare, Chekov, Chinese Opera, Arthur Miller, Tennessee Williams, August Wilson, Tom Stoppard and more. Doesn't pertain at all to the topic at issue.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
62. Do you not understand what the event was?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:25 PM
Apr 2016

It was sort of like a roast. Numerous jokes were made at the expense of NY politicians for laughs. There were skits and parodies of Broadway musicals including Hamilton. There were a lot of dumb and un-PC jokes. The white mayor was encouraged to boast about his accomplishments in a hip-hop style (a la the musical), for example.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
63. A performance at The Globe? No? Got it, a roast, parodies, skits, etc. Doesn't change a thing
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

for average Americans (who don't follow/live for Theatre) seeing this clip now mostly on social media and determining that it's insulting and in extremely bad taste.
You have much work to do getting out all of the play's background and educating millions on contemporary Theater, so better get started. That's a huge population, unlike the DU message forum. There's no time to waste!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
64. I am just trying to provide context that might be helpful
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016

I can't really do anything about the fact that this clip is out there on social media. I am just trying to explain to you what the event was in the hopes that it may give you a broader understanding of the context.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
68. I got 'the broader context' of the event up front. Again, hope you realize the wide
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:36 AM
Apr 2016

reception this will have to people who don't know or care about the inside aspects, only that it is blatantly obnoxious by any measure. It doesn't require over explaining and thinking, believe it. Not over complicated..Whew-

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
67. Gotta wonder
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:28 AM
Apr 2016

from his reaction if he even knew it was coming. But DeBlasio and Hillary knew that particular POC was going to be on the stage with them. Couldn't they have foreseen that the "joke" might have been offensive to him?

A stupid, hurtful quip in my mind right up there with Romney's "47%." And it's going viral.

K&R NOT for the video, but for posting it, appalachiablue. Thank you!

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
72. No politician would have touched an asinine inside-elite theater ditty like that now or
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

any time with what's going on in our racist, apartheid brutal society and near police state. A very stupid, callous joke at best you're right. And similar to Romney's caught on tape remark about the 47% at the exclusive Florida Fat Cats event.
Although little has or will be covered about this rude blunder in M$M, social media is ablaze. And the flames from wild accusations by Bill Clinton this week that BLM and black people are defending criminal activity are ongoing.

The DNC, the Dem. Party and too many Democratic politicians, including blockhead de Blah, Blah Blasio who campaigned against progressives in NY state with Cuomo and is not doing so well according to New Yorkers here are unbelievable. And I'm a lifelong Dem. and voter but with many second thoughts now.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
17. They can get away with it because polls show that more than 2/3 of the people of color . . .
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

. . . are STILL unaware of the damage that the Clintons have done them over the past 20 years. Such unbelievable ignorance.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
39. So you say "2/3 of the people of color" show "such unbelievable ignorance"...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:35 PM
Apr 2016

but you think a joke about "cautious politician time"--done with the participation of an African American cast member of Hamilton, is over the top offensive. Interesting.

Do you think Representative John Lewis shows "such unbelievable ignorance"?

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
31. I wonder how many southern AA's wish they could change their vote
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

Now that Hillary inc is no longer pandering to them.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
37. The tragic truth that I've been pondering for months. What fraud and a shame...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
Apr 2016

Used, exploited, called for help but discarded like Lillie Harden of Little Rock, Arkansas. Bill Clinton enlisted Lillie Harden as the poster child for Welfare 'reform' in 1996. Sadly, we can't ask Lillie how 'Workfare' went for her because she's no longer living. In 2014 after suffering a stroke in 2002 and asking for help but refused Lillie Harden passed away.



- Lillie Harden of Arkansas Stands to the Left at Clinton's Signing of the Welfare Reform Act, Aug. 22, 1996.

(AKA 'Workfare' and the Welfare Deform Act That Threw Millions of Vulnerable Women and Children into Poverty and Caused Government Officials to Resign, Including Peter Edelman at HUD).

"The Tragic End of the Woman Bill Clinton Exploited As Poster Child For Gutting Welfare", AlterNet, May 11, 2015.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/tragic-end-woman-bill-clinton-exploited-poster-child-gutting-welfare

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
52. Sure...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

You're right, this is way more important than Bernie's inability to explain how he would accomplish his own key issues. For sure, this should sway your vote. Oh, and when Bernie's wife can figure out how to print their taxes, they'll explain how they'll run a country.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
53. HRC displays yet again more presidential gravitas.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

We expect it, though.

Clue: When you run for president or "president," you must keep discretion at or near the top of your list.

If you display the opposite, it speaks poorly of you, dear.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
69. "Cringe-worthy" as a descriptor
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:43 AM
Apr 2016

for that clip is grossly under estimated. It was flat out racist, and I bet that the majority of the 165,000+ views on YouTube agree.

K&R for the posting, NOT the "joke."

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
70. Anyone else object to the gold coat? Looks like they melted gold...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:51 AM
Apr 2016

...and poured it over her. Very bad 'optics,' as they say. Or not, depending on who you're trying to impress with the melted gold look.

Which brings me to the main show, this extraordinary racist joke shared by the mayor of New York and Hillary Clinton.

My first thought was, WHY would Hillary Clinton deliberately insult the one demographic group that gave her her current lead in the delegate count, in the southern states, and that has stuck with her in (to me) inexplicable numbers--African Americans--(except for young AA's who are now voting for Sanders)?

Combined with Bill's rant and finger pointing the other day at BLM activists, I have been truly bewildered by their insults. Why?

The only thing I can think of is they know the fix is in, and they are parading their invincibility by trashing their supporters. 'Take that, you suckers! We don't need to care!'

Let's hope that it's hubris.

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from Google:

hu·bris
ˈ h)yo͞obrəs/
noun
excessive pride or self-confidence.
synonyms: arrogance, conceit, haughtiness, hauteur, pride, self-importance, egotism, pomposity, superciliousness, superiority; More
(in Greek tragedy) excessive pride toward or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis.


nem·e·sis
ˈneməsəs/
noun
the inescapable agent of someone's or something's downfall.
"the balance beam was the team's nemesis, as two gymnasts fell from the apparatus"
synonyms: archrival, adversary, foe, opponent, arch enemy
"they were beaten in the final by their nemesis"
a long-standing rival; an archenemy.
"will Harry Potter finally defeat his nemesis, Voldemort?"
a downfall caused by an inescapable agent.
"one risks nemesis by uttering such words"
synonyms: downfall, undoing, ruin, ruination, destruction, Waterloo
"this could be the bank's nemesis"
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
79. This kind of sickness is what is wrong with society today.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

Folks like this should be tarred and feathered, and put into the town center stockade!

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
80. Another Made-Up Story with No Legs . . .
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

This is just another anti-Hillary thread to occupy space on DU. The Sandernistas are all over threads these days.

"Bernie Takes a Walk."
"My Republican Grandma is Supporting Bernie."
"Everybody in the Restaurant Clapped at my Bernie Shirt."
"Bernie uses Air Quotation Marks Better Than Anyone."
"Bernie Points Better Than Hillary."
"Bernie Lectures Better Than a College Professor."

And on and on it goes . . . Move along, nothing here.

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