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Do you honestly believe... (Original Post) Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2016 OP
no Vestigial_Sister Apr 2016 #1
N Downwinder Apr 2016 #2
N RiverLover Apr 2016 #3
N Glorfindel Apr 2016 #4
Wow! nt bonniebgood Apr 2016 #5
No Half-Century Man Apr 2016 #6
No peacebird Apr 2016 #7
no sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #8
? Merryland Apr 2016 #9
No. floriduck Apr 2016 #10
No JackInGreen Apr 2016 #11
N.. Freedoms I fought for.. down the drain. And people are okay with it. Joob Apr 2016 #12
The lack of widespread... Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2016 #20
N ReRe Apr 2016 #13
No EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #14
The whole thing seems fake Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #15
Democracy has been dead.... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #26
Do we really want to direct traffic to an Alex Jones fan and Trump supporter? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #16
Do you really want to keep giving them ammunition? cprise Apr 2016 #17
Isn't that what I just said? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #19
If the video is accurate, it doesn't matter who put it out Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #21
That's a big if Major Nikon Apr 2016 #23
But there have been plenty of other studies showing that this can happen-- it's not pure BS Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #24
Please do feel free to post links to... Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2016 #25
You stole my line! Major Nikon Apr 2016 #28
I don't doubt that Major Nikon Apr 2016 #27
No. This is why exit polls and manual recounts are important. cprise Apr 2016 #18
exit polls are expensive, and manual recounts can't be done with electronic voting Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #22
Expensive, compared to what? cprise Apr 2016 #29
do they? Where? And please define plenty. Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #30
Optical scan systems are based on paper ballots. cprise Apr 2016 #31
Y LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #32
NO LiberalElite Apr 2016 #38
No, never really have... Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #33
No. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #34
N Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2016 #35
N smiley Apr 2016 #36
N Ino Apr 2016 #37
No n/t JesterCS Apr 2016 #39
N dana_b Apr 2016 #40
Not any more. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #41
N dchill Apr 2016 #42
Only a wee bit. earthshine Apr 2016 #43
Where did you read that? n/t Wilms Apr 2016 #44
N Old Crow Apr 2016 #45
N nenagh Apr 2016 #46
No. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #47
N (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #48
Other Rex Apr 2016 #49
N. laruemtt Apr 2016 #50
No. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #51
N GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #52
No. sense Apr 2016 #53
No hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #54
So why with all this allegedly clear and convincing proof of voter fraud Tarc Apr 2016 #55
Good question. Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2016 #56
N jschurchin Apr 2016 #57

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
20. The lack of widespread...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:38 AM
Apr 2016

...outrage, or even interest, over such an obviously corrupt to the core electoral system is very troubling.

Cute puppy videos generate considerably more interest than an exposé on our crooked and horribly broken electoral system.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
15. The whole thing seems fake
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

I don't have much confidence in election results. If the system is not transparent it's only a matter of time before democracy is dead.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. Isn't that what I just said?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016

The OP directs traffic to the channel of a right wing nutbag. So no, I don't want to give them anything.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
21. If the video is accurate, it doesn't matter who put it out
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

Unfortunately, there isn't any info here about where this was, what kind of follow up there was, and if it was some sort of scam.

But in general, it does bring out a serious concern about our elections.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
23. That's a big if
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

The fact that there's no way to verify it suggests it's just more right wing nuttery. Given the source I see no reason to give it the benefit of the doubt, especially when the traffic provides profit to an obvious creme-de-la-dum wingnut.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
24. But there have been plenty of other studies showing that this can happen-- it's not pure BS
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

But yeah, this isn't the best video to show the problem, given the lack of background and the source.

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
25. Please do feel free to post links to...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:31 PM
Apr 2016

...any/all videos you feel address this very important issue well/better than the OP.

And just a friendly fyi, I think you'll find that feeding the long time obvious trolls at DU to be a tiring and fruitless endeavor.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
28. You stole my line!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

Kinda funny though, considering you probably have somewhere around 100 or more threads locked or hidden for posting the exact same nuttery about Chemtrails, Anti-vax, and other assorted crazytalk.

If that doesn't qualify as trolling, I'm not sure what would. I wasn't gonna go there, but being called a troll by you is a bit more projection than I can let slide. So if you wanna get all butthurt for getting called for posting questionable content from even more questionable sources, again, you might want to rethink that strategy, because your own history speaks for itself.

Just a friendly fyi!

cprise

(8,445 posts)
18. No. This is why exit polls and manual recounts are important.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:06 PM
Apr 2016

But the establishment has recently developed a stark distaste for them. So pile this on top of the reasons why the parties themselves are rigged.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
22. exit polls are expensive, and manual recounts can't be done with electronic voting
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

so we are screwed.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
31. Optical scan systems are based on paper ballots.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

There are other types that have the voter input their selections first (usually on a touchscreen), then make a printout... this type of paper "ballot" is unacceptable because it can take more than twice as long to vote if the voter has to read-back the printout for verification.

But the first kind is still pretty respectable IF the election culture doesn't gaslight the idea of manual recounts.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
43. Only a wee bit.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:28 AM
Apr 2016

Raw vote tallies have to be made -- before they can be flipped or otherwise manipulated!

We need paper-based ballots that can be manually recounted.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
45. N
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:38 AM
Apr 2016

As a computer programmer? Who knows what a piece of cake it is to flip votes on electronic machines with code that is not being audited? HELL NO.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
55. So why with all this allegedly clear and convincing proof of voter fraud
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

has Sanders yet to file a challenge in any state's primary or caucus results?

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
56. Good question.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

You may recall Gore had little to say about having the presidency quite obviously stolen from him in 2000, and same with Kerry in 2004.

Are you trying to imply that everything must be on the up-and-up because if it weren't, Gore, Kerry, and Sanders would have/be sounding off about it?

Statistics don't lie and the evidence for a horribly corrupt electoral system in the US is readily available, strong, and voluminous.

That said, I still say you're asking an excellent question for which I don't have the answer. Sanders absolutely should be sounding off about it--he should be screaming bloody murder. The case for it would be easy for him to make and NOW is the time to do it.

Thank you for your question Tarc. Should I assume your vote is Y to the OP?

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