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The 2016 Election WILL Be Stolen - Here's How (with Greg Palast) (Original Post) antigop Apr 2016 OP
Because unless Sanders wins, it was stolen. stopbush Apr 2016 #1
Again, you don't see what's happening to his voters? Ignore it! Go ahead! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #2
I know that , they don't :( PatrynXX Apr 2016 #30
They're not even trying to hide it.... sense Apr 2016 #3
And if Ms. Inevitable wins, then by your definition it couldn't have been? forest444 Apr 2016 #4
... BeanMusical Apr 2016 #5
Stop You Wibly Apr 2016 #6
Obviously yesphan Apr 2016 #7
I did watch the video. stopbush Apr 2016 #9
I'm still not convinced you watched the video Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #12
Look, I admire Palast for the work he did on Florida 2000. stopbush Apr 2016 #14
The entire discussion is about the general election. Hillary supporters should be concerned think Apr 2016 #21
Election Fraud Mesee Apr 2016 #15
Where? What was the explanation for doing so from election officials? stopbush Apr 2016 #18
Election Fraud Mesee Apr 2016 #26
What do you mean by election fraud? What specifically happened? stopbush Apr 2016 #28
Just showing up to vote in NYC doesn't work passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #27
If you are inactive and show up to vote before the fifth year you mention, you are instantly stopbush Apr 2016 #29
But this does not address how to change your status from inactive to active, passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #31
Don't be silly. sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #10
Can't argue the point, so insult the person RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 Apr 2016 #8
This is a really important video. He's talking about election fraud evidence. Gregorian Apr 2016 #11
link to his book on Amazon antigop Apr 2016 #16
New York voting fiasco just the warm-up for the November game antigop Apr 2016 #17
kicking for later Pharaoh Apr 2016 #19
It sure looks that way to me. ananda Apr 2016 #20
K&R. Pallast is laying out the various schemes states will use to PURGE voters in the general. think Apr 2016 #22
And he may well be the "last investigative journalist in the USA". Duval Apr 2016 #23
You're welcome. nt antigop Apr 2016 #24
The last two are very confused about baby boomers. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #25

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
1. Because unless Sanders wins, it was stolen.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:13 PM
Apr 2016

Lose the hat, Greg. It doesn't look good on you. Never has.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
2. Again, you don't see what's happening to his voters? Ignore it! Go ahead!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is going to lose anyway herself!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
30. I know that , they don't :(
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:12 PM
Apr 2016

they think Republicans and independents are gonna just up and vote for Hillary. Probbaly not.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
4. And if Ms. Inevitable wins, then by your definition it couldn't have been?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

Sounds like what my Republican friends used to say, in December 2000. Please remember that when Hillary faces the same thing this November.

Wibly

(613 posts)
6. Stop You
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

Typical Clinton supporter. Don't offer any sort of reason or logic based counter position, insult a guy because of the way he dresses, and infer something that was never claimed!
And you think this will help Clinton?
Pathetic.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
9. I did watch the video.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

Palast asserts that putting voters on an inactive list is stealing their vote. Really? In NY, you get off the inactive list if you show up at the polls and vote. Simple as that. No ones vote is taken away.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. I'm still not convinced you watched the video
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

If you had, you would know that Palast spent the entire time talking about how Republicans are once again trying to purge voters (preferably black ones) from the rolls more or less the same way Katharine Harris did in Florida in 2000. The villain of the piece this time is Chris Kobach, the Secretary of State in Kansas and a notorious vote suppressor. Kobach has worked this into a national racket to protect Republicans in red states.

So, if you had watched the video, you wonldn't be dismissive, but alarmed.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
14. Look, I admire Palast for the work he did on Florida 2000.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

And yes, the first half of the video is basically a recap of that history.

But he seems to be a hammer in search of the nail he knows this time around.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
21. The entire discussion is about the general election. Hillary supporters should be concerned
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

This is all about PURGING Democratic voters.

Mesee

(42 posts)
15. Election Fraud
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

Really. Last year my husband's name was taken off after voting in the same location for over forty years.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
27. Just showing up to vote in NYC doesn't work
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016
You are purged from the system (A voter in inactive status who does not vote in two consecutive Federal Elections is in the fifth year, removed from the list of register. The voter must re-register in order to vote.


what is the deadline for registering to vote in NYC?


If you are a new voter (eg. never registered before, just moved to NY or are turning 18) you have until 3/25/2016


http://vote.nyc.ny.us/html/voters/faq.shtml

I'm assuming you have this date for a deadline to register again.

So if you didn't find out your registration flipped to inactive, you may not have been able to vote in this election. You needed to register before 3/25/16

I don't know if the rest of the counties are like this. This is for NYC.

So if it was your failure to vote in past elections, then you are responsible. If it is something wrong in the system that is switching status, it may not be the voter's fault.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
29. If you are inactive and show up to vote before the fifth year you mention, you are instantly
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

reinstated as an active voter in NY. If you haven't bothered voting in ANY election for 5 years, yeah, you are purged.

New voters could register as late as March 25, less than one month before the primary (they need some time to process applications and update the records, naturally).

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
31. But this does not address how to change your status from inactive to active,
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:01 PM
Apr 2016

if it was changed by the system mistakenly.

I hope you are right and those voters get to vote.

BTW, Oregon now registers people automatically, so if you are registered, you get your ballot and election material in the mail (we vote by mail) so what they've done now is make it harder to not vote (guilt because you don't have to go out of your way to vote) than it is too vote.

I wish every state would do this.

Oregon (places 6th) is one of two states that employ a vote-by-mail only system. Voters receive an information pamphlet three weeks before the election, followed a few days later by their ballots. With an average voter turnout of 60.13 – 8.5 percentage points above the national average – the system is working for Oregonians.

“There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we see high turnout because of vote-by-mail,” says Oregon Secretary of State Kate Brown. “It’s extremely convenient and accessible; it’s secure and cost-effective.”


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2012/1106/Voter-turnout-the-6-states-that-rank-highest-and-why/Oregon

the other five states with the highest voter turnout (ranked by numbers) are:
5 South Dakota
4 Alaska
3 Wisconsin
2 Maine
1 Minnesota

Minnesota’s average eligible voter turnout in the past six elections – 67.6 percent – is 16.4 percentage points higher than the national average.

Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie attributes the state’s consistently high rating to state policies and an emphasis on reducing barriers to voting access.

The most effective policy is same-day registration, Ritchie says.
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
10. Don't be silly.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

Either what the man says is factual or it isn't. Worry about that and less about his hat.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
13. Can't argue the point, so insult the person
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

That's a very good Juinor-High School tactic.
Glad to see that you are growing up.

Response to antigop (Original post)

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. This is a really important video. He's talking about election fraud evidence.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:40 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for posting this.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
17. New York voting fiasco just the warm-up for the November game
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:21 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.gregpalast.com/new-york-voting-fiasco-just-the-warm-up-for-the-november-game/#more-11734

But whether party hacks shoplifted New York or not, that’s small potatoes. Scrubbing voter rolls is not a “New York value.” It’s a nationwide epidemic, a disease eating away at the heart of our democracy.

Voting officials learned a lesson from Katherine Harris the Florida Secretary of State who purged Black voters in 2000. They learned how to repeat the purge, expand it and carefully hide it.

I’ve been traveling the nation, from Ohio to Georgia to Arizona and back—and finding the voter-roll purging machinery running at full speed.

Nationwide, state voting chiefs are, from my long experience, the most violently partisan officials you’ll ever encounter.

From the data provided by the US Elections Assistance Commission, we can calculate that no less than 491,952 voters were wrongly removed from the rolls in 2008, the last reviewed Presidential election in addition 2,383,587 voters filled out registration forms that were simply never added to voter rolls – and 767,023 provisional and affidavit ballots were not counted.

And it’s not just anyone’s ballot. I’ll never forget that, at one of my recent talks on vote suppression, I asked how many in the audience had ever been shunted to a provisional ballot. There were only two Black people in the audience. They were the only two to raise their hand.

US Civil Rights Commission statistics tell the story. The chance of a ballot “spoiled” – not counted for one reason or another – is 900% higher if you’re Black than if you’re White.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
22. K&R. Pallast is laying out the various schemes states will use to PURGE voters in the general.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

Brooklyn just had 126,000 Democrats purged. Don't think this isn't happening...

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
23. And he may well be the "last investigative journalist in the USA".
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

I've been reading him on line for years and have two of his books. I've often thought he should have a couple of body guards with him.

Thanks for the post, antigop.

As I watched him talk, I could see a twinkle in his eyes! And I love his hat. I own two fedoras, and am a 77 year old woman.
Oh to be 50 years younger and single! Not really, as he travels a lot and works very hard, and I'm married to my soul mate.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. The last two are very confused about baby boomers.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

First of all baby boomers are not of one mind in planning for the future. One thing baby boomers did agree with was to make higher than usual FICA contributions for their retirement. And, because of this Social Security is sound with a 2.8 trillion dollar surplus.

Where the young people get it wrong is what happened to their future. Their future, along with money that would subsidize their college tuition, was stolen mostly by the Bush cabal.

While Bush enacted tax cuts for the wealthy he also engaged the nation in not one but two unnecessary, counterproductive wars of choice.

If all that was not bad enough we have come to find out that many very wealth people and corporations are hiding money (trillions) in offshore accounts so they can escape paying taxes.

Yes, some of the people that put money in the Cayman Islands were baby boomers. But you cannot blame an entire massive age group for the sins of .01%.

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